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View Poll Results: Are you doing the track event at the convention in '06?
Yes. 59 74.68%
No. 4 5.06%
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Track event: are you going to participate?

This is a simple poll as to whether or not you will be driving on the track. If you're not going to be at the convention, you obviously shouldn't vote in this poll. If you are undecided, please post why.
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The car will be ready, this I know and guarantee.

I'm not sure, however, if I'll be able to make it up to the safety spec. Specifically, I don't have a helmet and there isn't a place where I can get one locally.

Aside from that problem, I can assume it'll be like any SCCA autocross tech? Tight battery, no loose junk, etc?

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Undecided. I'm hoping to attend (still unsure at this point). I would very much like to get some track time but I am a complete newb - only drag-raced up to this point and that very little.

I'd like some info about how the track events actually run - rules about passing, speeds, can you get instruction, etc. If this is posted somewhere I've missed it and I apologize.
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i am planning on attending and making the track event. as of now there is NO reason why i shouldn't be there this year.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i am planning on attending and making the track event. as of now there is NO reason why i shouldn't be there this year.

I will drive to Atlanta, and smack you around if you don't show up.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If I do go, I'd, without question, stay somewhere close to the track. The organizer from NJ, who shall remain nameless, was a bit snippy about the fact that the group is staying in Parsippany NJ. I have no desire what so ever to stay in Jersey for a PA event. I also don't want to be odd man out and exclude myself from the group by staying somewhere else. I've read in another thread that last year's event had a clicky vibe to it. At 40, I really don't need to be back in high school. Forgive me for being upfront about the matter, but you asked. I haven't run a track gig at Pocono in a long time and would like too, but not at the expense of being uncomfortable with the folks around me. Especially at speed.
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Old 08-24-2005, 11:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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As a 39 year-old of the group, I can assure you there isn't much of the 'clique' thing, Hank. In large groups of people, there will ALWAYS be smaller groups who are familiar with each other, live close to each other, etc. and that will never change.

However, I personally met at least 15 new (to me) people at this year's convention in Texas. You just have to get around.

As for the track... it is worth the price of admission. The most fun you can have with your clothes on. I of course voted YES to doing the track event.

Kent, it will be worth it. You can go as fast/slow as you like, have instructors ride with you or drive your car (or someone else's), and do things at your speed. Very safe, lots of rules, and just plain fun, fun, fun.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Was it Greg that I met this year?? and let beat on my beast on the track? Sorry folks my 25 year old ass is just not as snappy as it used to be...

I will be at the convention but will not have a car to drive on track... 3000 miles is no fun...

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Old 08-25-2005, 12:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=SERprise In WV]As a 39 year-old of the group, I can assure you there isn't much of the 'clique' thing, Hank. QUOTE]

This was taken from the "feedback from 2005" thread:

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Dislikes: I've only been to 2 conventions, but sometimes, it feels awfully clique-ish. It's like a bunch of different fraternities/sororities running around. It's hard to decide what to do and where... and with whom. Even though I've seen lots of the same people both times, I feel the groups are all negatively charged magnets that kind of circle around each other without coming together. Some sort of orientation where people introduce themselves might help............
As far as track days go, ya I here ya, they're lots of fun. I've been doing them for a number of years. I'm good enough to be an instructor, but really don't like the idea of putting myself at the mercy of a Honda driver. But I digress. My point is that really don't need to be around a negativity charged environment. I think if you look at the suggestions I made for 2006 in the "feedback from 2005" thread and the comments I received from this year's organizer you'll catch my drift.
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The car will be ready, this I know and guarantee.

I'm not sure, however, if I'll be able to make it up to the safety spec. Specifically, I don't have a helmet and there isn't a place where I can get one locally.

Aside from that problem, I can assume it'll be like any SCCA autocross tech? Tight battery, no loose junk, etc?

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I wouldn't not having a helmet stop you from doing the event. I can assure you that you will either be able to rent or borrow a helmet.
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I should be driving my car on the track, the only constraints are what suspension I am fleeting with at the moment and Money issues. I took a couple spins this year and like Greg said, most fun I have had with my clothes on...
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The organizer who shall remain nameless is me... Kieran Lavin. I am NOT going to get into a sh*t flinging contest. I will appologize for being snippy. That said, suggestions are fine for other things to do. However, people were taking it to mean 'these are the things we will be doing' I didn't want anyone to miscontrue what is being organized. We will post when the schedule is set and events are organized.

The reason that the main hotel will be in Parsipanny is because the convention and attendees have grown accustomed to Embassy Suites hotels (free food and booze). We wanted to make it a NYC convention to the greatest extent. Pocono is an excellent track and was relatively cheap (RELATIVELY!) so that is where we are travelling to go for our track event. In DC in 2001, we centered the convention around DC but drove 2 hours or so to the track at Summit in West Virginia. The hotel in Parsipanny is relatively close to the city as well as the track. Many people will want to venture to the city for touristy stuff on Saturday and drinking Saturday night (many of these guys can drink!) The picnic we're working on trying to get it down close to the city for photo shots with the city as a backdrop with all of our cars.

In terms of cliques... yes, it happens. As Greg mentions, that's just the way it is. And I know I'm fairly guilty of that myself in all past conventions. I stick around the 20-30 people I know best. I will make every effort to get around and meet as many people as possible this year. It happens... but if you come with an open mind and meet some new folks, you will have fun. I just about guarantee it. Don't worry about being on track with these guys. I've seen SOME unsafe behavior in the past but the club we'll be running with will absolutely deal with unsafe behavior with a swift swoop. They don't deal with any BS. I got yelled at once by them for driving through the hot pit at Watkins Glen with my helmet off (it was hot!) One of their guys drove up and yelled at me before I even got out of my car!

So, let's put the other thread behind us and, assuming you come, I'll buy you a beer at the Embassy Suites in Parsipanny

Why's everyone got such a problem with New Jersey anyway :-P
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Undecided. I'm hoping to attend (still unsure at this point). I would very much like to get some track time but I am a complete newb - only drag-raced up to this point and that very little.
I'll be driving at the track in 2006 and voted yes.

Kent, contact me (or others) if you want to check out a few track events. I've got at least two more this year (one tomorrow!), and probably a third that would be on a weekend. Then there is early next year before the 2006 convention. Even if your car isn't ready, you can see how they are run and organized. Instruction at the conventions is some of the best because it's people who drive our cars, as opposed to a guy that races mustangs telling you what line is best.

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Cause NJ sucks thats why! im takin my pos on the track, no doubt

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I'll be there, i won't be driving on the track. I don't have a plan B if i were to break something. Haha.
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Undecided. I'm hoping to attend (still unsure at this point). I would very much like to get some track time but I am a complete newb - only drag-raced up to this point and that very little.

I'd like some info about how the track events actually run - rules about passing, speeds, can you get instruction, etc. If this is posted somewhere I've missed it and I apologize.
Oops, I forgot to reply to you.

As far as how the event is run, it's fairly simple especially since we are doing this through a club that runs several track events and races a year. We will technically be their guest and they will run the day for us. Usually the day starts out early. If you're changing tires/brake pads you'll want to get to the track early. There is a driver's meeting around 8AM at which point all the rules and etiquette will be reviewed. We will be having a driver's meeting the night before as well particularly for the new guys to get them a little more comfortable and help them understand how the day goes. Anyway, after the driver's meeting at the track, the newbies will be paired up with instructors. As Jason already mentioned, it's pretty good to have an instructor who drives a similar car... even with the different levels of power, suspension, and even chasis (B13 / B14) there are enough similarities. Your instructor will help you through the day as much as needed. The instructor will work with you but, if you're good enough to go on your own for your second session, he'll sign you off to drive on your own. On the other hand, if you want more instruction, your instructor will ride with you every session if you prefer. As for speed, depending on the mods you have, you could be going anywhere from 110 or so (stock) to some turbo guys will probably be hitting 130-140 maybe? Passing will only be on the 'bowl' or banking on the main portion of the Nascar track. It might sound/seem intimidating but it's really a lot of fun!
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I'll be there, i won't be driving on the track. I don't have a plan B if i were to break something. Haha.
dont worry daveracer, im sure well find a nice big strait line for you
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