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Old 04-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i have them on my car now... it idles like stock... you will have to adjust the idle at operating temperature after the install but it idles smooth @ 800 for me. not lumpy at all
What's the point then? Shoot, I want my cams to barely idle...
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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What's the point then? Shoot, I want my cams to barely idle...
I thought about this for a while, believe it or not. I wanted to have a lopey idle that makes ppl turn their heads like "WTF?! Only muscle cars do that!", but then reality kicked in, and I decided to get the BC S2's, since from what I've read, they're kick ass, in between JWT S3's and S4's. The cost factor was a plus, though I would have bought the JWT S4's anyway. Just saved some cash so I can spend that on something else for the car
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:35 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I thought about this for a while, believe it or not. I wanted to have a lopey idle that makes ppl turn their heads like "WTF?! Only muscle cars do that!", but then reality kicked in, and I decided to get the BC S2's, since from what I've read, they're kick ass, in between JWT S3's and S4's. The cost factor was a plus, though I would have bought the JWT S4's anyway. Just saved some cash so I can spend that on something else for the car
hks has loopy idle cams..

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Old 04-21-2007, 10:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You can run these cams without s/r without and problems at high rpm's right?
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Old 04-21-2007, 11:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2007, 11:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
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no problems yet up to 7500
I'm still a little nervous. I've read a few post where they strongly recommend s/r's. I think I'll go with some used s4's just to be safe. Thanks for the info though.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:31 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I just said the hell with it and ordered the S/R kit for the BC S2's. It's not like they're overly expensive, if it makes you feel more comfortable in the higher RPM bands.

The way I see it, is you're getting cams and S/R kit for the price of S4's alone. I think that's a pretty good deal.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:39 AM   #30 (permalink)
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hks has loopy idle cams..

listen to evo's,eclipses,talons... they sound nuts until they break
Yeah, I heard some mean ass tuned cars at the local track days before I deployed. sh*t practically gave me wood to hear a tuned WRX sounding mean as hell. There was an Evo VIII there too that didn't even sound "Mitsu-ish". Sounded like the guy dropped a 454 in there or something. SICK!

But, I digress. Something that's not so blatenly obvious would be better for me, considering this car is going to be my DD. If I were sitting at a light and some little ricer pulls up, I don't want him to get the idea that I'm "bout it" and have him try to race me. I get enough crap like that from driving a bone stock Kia
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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so 200 bucks for stage 2 cams sounds good....but why would they make you low end sh*ttier? i dont get it
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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so 200 bucks for stage 2 cams sounds good....but why would they make you low end sh*ttier? i dont get it
Because they give you highend power. You have to sacrifice a little lowend to get some topend, thats just the way it works
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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so 200 bucks for stage 2 cams sounds good....but why would they make you low end sh*ttier? i dont get it
how ca i get these for 200???no way..........
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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No, you get them for 250~270 new.

The S/R kit is 220 shipped.

IIRC, the S4's cost $560 new? Basically, you're paying LESS to get cams AND S/R kit, than cams from JWT. The BC S2's are in between JWT S3's and S4's.

I'd say that's a hell of a deal.

As stated previously, you have to sacrifice a little bit of low end torque for top end range. It's not any worse than stock, IIRC, but pulls you GREAT thru top end. My car will be turbo, so I don't care about low end torque. The T25 will more than make up for it. That and I would like to have a higher safe redline, than stock. With S/R and these S2's, I should safely see up to 8500rpm. I don't think that's far fetched.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:11 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Because they give you highend power. You have to sacrifice a little lowend to get some topend, thats just the way it works
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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so if i slap on s2's with my current i/h/e i could/should be shifting higher than i do now?
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so if i slap on s2's with my current i/h/e i could/should be shifting higher than i do now?
no youll be makin more power up to 7500k cant change rev limiter
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BC says you can even run those cams on a GTi-R w/ a solid valve-train
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