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Old 04-25-2007, 09:47 PM   #41 (permalink)
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ok so how /wher do you get them?
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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i want cams that sound like this.
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:39 AM   #43 (permalink)
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ok so how /wher do you get them?
Contact SR20TurboFreak.
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:31 PM   #44 (permalink)
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So from what I'm gathering...you don't need to install the springs and retainers? You can just run the cams alone?
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
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So from what I'm gathering...you don't need to install the springs and retainers? You can just run the cams alone?
Yeah, but people are saying you should get them if you do alot of high rpm driving... I would definitely get them if I didn't keep hearing this. Installing springs and retainers is a little above my skills, so I think I'll just go with some used s4's instead. Unless somebody can tell me for a fact that s/r are definitely not needed then I'll get them because I do ALOT of high rpm driving and I can't be worried about valve float.
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Thats how my sr20 sounds like.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:51 PM   #47 (permalink)
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the reason i recommend the S/R kit is this.

The stock valve springs are very close to coil bind. any difference in head shimming and spring in stalled height can affect this.

also, because the cams are somewhat aggressive, i recomend them because any slight miss shift, to say 8000rpm will probobly float the valves enough to bend them.

the engine will run fine without them though.
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the reason i recommend the S/R kit is this.

The stock valve springs are very close to coil bind. any difference in head shimming and spring in stalled height can affect this.

also, because the cams are somewhat aggressive, i recomend them because any slight miss shift, to say 8000rpm will probobly float the valves enough to bend them.

the engine will run fine without them though.
So even if I redline my car alot there won't be any problems??
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:24 AM   #49 (permalink)
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the reason i recommend the S/R kit is this.

The stock valve springs are very close to coil bind. any difference in head shimming and spring in stalled height can affect this.

also, because the cams are somewhat aggressive, i recomend them because any slight miss shift, to say 8000rpm will probobly float the valves enough to bend them.

the engine will run fine without them though.


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So even if I redline my car alot there won't be any problems??
See where I hilighted his previous post.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:42 AM   #50 (permalink)
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See where I hilighted his previous post.
I call that a problem cause everyone misses at least one shift.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:57 AM   #51 (permalink)
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float, bend, valves?

shiiiiet how much are these s/r's again?
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float, bend, valves?

shiiiiet how much are these s/r's again?
This is how I have come to understand it. Float is when your valves move so fast the springs can't control them. Once that happens the valves can hit a piston and bend
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float, bend, valves?

shiiiiet how much are these s/r's again?
$220 shipped, IIRC. Well worth a sound mind, if you ask me.

Personally, it doesn't make sense to spend $$$ on just JWT S4 cams, and still have the possibility that you're going to damage internal components because you mis-shifted. That mis-shift could end up costing you a lot of your time and money just to get it running again.
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I call that a problem cause everyone misses at least one shift.
That's why I hilighted SR20TurboFreak's post

If you want to risk taking your car to that danger zone, be my guest. I for one feel more confident that I'm going to be able to take it beyond 8K rpm without worrying about bending valves.
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And what has me worried the most is I only have a maximum of 11.8 mm of lift before the coils bind on my GTi-R. I really need springs and retainers.
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And what has me worried the most is I only have a maximum of 11.8 mm of lift before the coils bind on my GTi-R. I really need springs and retainers.
Yes, yes you do.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:45 AM   #57 (permalink)
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And what has me worried the most is I only have a maximum of 11.8 mm of lift before the coils bind on my GTi-R. I really need springs and retainers.
I can get you springs for the GTiR If you want them.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:01 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Im about to install my stage 2's I got from sr20turbofreak,I reccomend getting them from him.Question I have is,I was gonna install these with new greddy valve springs,but all I have are stock retainers.Is this gonna be a problem?
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:00 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Stock retainers are better man. Titanium retainers will eventually gall and you'd have to replace them. Stock ones don't.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:39 AM   #60 (permalink)
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do they make BC cams for the roller-rocker engine? it has a lower redline, like 6800 or so, so do they need S+R?
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