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then buy an SSAC header and call it a day. but don't insult the man by demanding it be $300 when the materials alone and labor will be nearing $400 easy. i know we are all a bunch of low ballers. and many thing that are one off made for us we still question price. however $600 for a hand crafted piece of steel built by someone who so far seems like he is a damn fine fabricator is once in a life time.
Nobody was insulting the man. I think you got my posts all wrong. All I was trying to say is $300 is more appealing than $600 (for ovious reasons). Me personally (Not to brag) I don't have a problem paying $1000 for a great header with proven results. I don't want to ruin the thred. I'm just looking out for my fellow forum members in my opinion. Don't make me look like the enemy here.
Last edited by topdog781 : 03-07-2008 at 10:53 AM.
Because some of us do not make that much in a weeks work .
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Me personally (Not to brag) I don't have a problem paying $1000 for a great header with proven results. I don't want to ruin the thred. I'm just looking out for my fellow forum members in my opinion. Don't make me look like the enemy here.
Sounds like you're contradicting yourself.
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i would just run no manifold, you will gain the best flow. if you guys want to get 10 hp, why not buy a tornado?
I used to have a Stillen header, which is a 4-1 design, and I always had a problem with the design of it. It had a very nice header piece, with equal length primaries, and it had a V8 style 2.5" triangle collector where it meets the b-pipe. But, where I think they messed up, is that the secondary pipe is only a 2". So it always troubled me that the gases come flying down the primaries, merges, and then literally hits a wall, as it suddenly gets crammed into a 2" pipe without a smooth transition. I wish I still had that header, so I could fab up a 2.5" downpipe and see if it would've performed better. I also wonder if that's the reason that the average whp gain with the 4-1 Stillen was about 7-10, whereas the 4-2-1 Hotshots and SSACs tend to make more high rpm power, at about 9-14 whp. Hmmm...
Here's a pic of my old header that should help my story...
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