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I coated the plugs with anti-seize and spread grey gasket-maker all over the secondary-to-cat gasket. So, hopefully no leaks. But I think the tinny sound will go away once I dump into a 3" bullet muffler and out the side.....I just hope it'll pass 103db from 50ft. away, hahaha.
Don't count on it, my 3" short exhaust with a bullet muffler will make ears bleed. Have to run ear plugs or it actualy cuases pain. Its so loud the vido camera's head vibrates and the camera goes haywire.
Watch this thread get closed now, its almost a guarantee! But let the truth be heard anyway.
Yeah, but it won't get closed because Mike's so called 'protected' it's because your going around saying Mark's riding Mike's '______'. That sh*t isn't tolerated. You can argue with Mike all day long. But once you pull that immature crap, it will get closed.
You keep arguing about some dumbass sh*t that you swear like Mike is trying to argue with you about. He's not saying...NO ONE BUY OBX. He's saying, what they did is wrong, yet HotShot is still here. Now that's a great company. Support the company. It's like the war. You may not agree with it, but that's not what matters. What matters is supporting your troops. They have to be there. They are told to be there. Support them. Support HotShot.
Yes...the OBX sucks for stealing a design.
Yes...OBX made a cheap product.
Yes...it's a good item for the power to money ratio.
Yes...it will look ugly as hell in a few months.
Yes...OBX is a bad bad naughty company.
Yes...we should all praise them for stealing stuff and selling it to us cheaper in a worse form.
Yes...I will never buy OBX.
Yes...Hotshot did the research
Yes...Hotshot spent the time and money and we have to pay for it.
Yes...we should all tell our mechanis we shouldn't have to pay them because we coulda done the same thing ourselves
Yes...Hotshot cost alot.
Yes...Hotshot cracks.
Yes...Hotshot is a great company for sticking around.
Yes...Hotshot will still be around for the community.
Yes...we should all hate Hotshot for doing us good. Time after time.
Yes...they are dumbasses for trying to deliver a better product generation after generation.
Yes...they should pay China people to do the work for a third of the cost. F the American's and their higher standard of living.
Yes...I will continue to buy from Hotshot.
Big f-cking deal.
They copied the design, are taking credit for it and made some China folx make the sh*t for hella cheap. Hotshot on the other hand, took the time. Did the research. Built their own. And made some damn good power. I hate them for that! What geeks. I'd just lean over and copy the smart people.
Gimme a break. I don't dig HotShot's prices, but I don't dig theivery either. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings that I'd spend more money for a product from a company that I trust and stand by. Why buy Ferrari's when I can buy a pinto? I'd never buy anything OBX because that's me. I buy original sh*t, not fake sh*t. Don't see me rollin around in Bolex's and Payless shoes. BooYah. Talk sh*t to me all you want. I'll buy HotShot. You buy OBX. Good for you, bad for me. Owell, I'm still happy. I don't care what you or anyone else buys. Neither should you!
While your wasting time arguing with everyone and being immature, everyone is going on with their lives and saving up for that HotShot header.
HotShot comes out with generation after generation to improve thier design and satisfy the customer. Do you think OBX is going to redesign their header because that sh*t rusts out? f-ck no.
Edited for the poor sports. Haha.
Last edited by mYseRgOesvrOOm; 05-11-2004 at 03:34 AM.
Nah man. Someone stole that sh*t. Haha. I was just messin around up there. Haha. I was bored. I don't even really know what they are arguing about. I just skimmed the thread then started talking dumb sh*t. Haha. It's late and there's nothing to do. So I'm trolling. Hahaha...
So you can't even afford a simple bolt-on for your car and yet you think the fact hotshot redesigns their headers is a good thing, for us? For who? Not you. A real quality performance part will last on its own value for a long time, much longer than hotshots typically will last before becoming outdated.
Now, how can you make such a "bald blanket" statement like that? You don't know me or even what I can afford. When I use my "extra" money, 99 times out of 100, I spend it on my kids. That 1 time I spend money on upgrades, God forgive me, so what? Takes me a long time to upgrade, but I'm satisfied and my kids are happy. What do you know about a "real quality performance part" and how long before they become outdated? That is a really ignorant statement. When a company tests and researches a product, most of the time it is going to improve upon it. If you don't want the "latest" version, buy an earlier version.
there are many good headers for the sr20, and a few really good ones.
Yeah, that's an original statement... like several people haven't put that info in a thread. But, where's the testing/dyno's? And, when they do... HS does make more power. Why do you have a problem with that?
Vladha basically rides mikes _____ "pssst over here, mike" ...enough said
You know, that's just offensive as hell and completely unnecessary. Mike and I see "eye to eye" on a lot of things, so what. The "pssst over here" was to get Mikes attention, mainly because a few weeks ago, through some pm's, I believe I "ticked" Mike off a little bit. Not that it's any of your business... you make an incredible amount of ignorant assumptions.
Watch this thread get closed now, its almost a guarantee! But let the truth be heard anyway.[/QUOTE]
If the thread is closed, it'll be because of you, only, not your opinions. You seem to pick the most aggressive and antagonistic way to express yourself.
And by the way, you've been riding the OBX train since forever, but heaven forbid anyone else appreciate another company.
I don't know you, but from the way you've decided to communicate... imo, you're just another ______.
Peace,
Mark
__________________
"No Daddy.... it tastes like Butt!"
Heres my dyno sheet from my 154hp. This is with the following mods:
Custom intake / Side-exhaust / UR CRANK PULLEY / Paceheader / No A/c, No P/S.
Torque drops off at 5700 rpms, HP peaked at 6300 rpms.
THIS DYNOGRAPH STARTS AT 4200 rpms and moves up in 200rpm increments.
__________________ Jonathan 94 LE "Im going to get groceries in the gas sipper" 93 G20 "Im cruising tonight" 2004 Quest "The NEW Papi Bus" To school and back in 45 minutes
Last edited by SmoothDaddyFig; 05-11-2004 at 11:52 AM.
Don't count on it, my 3" short exhaust with a bullet muffler will make ears bleed. Have to run ear plugs or it actualy cuases pain. Its so loud the vido camera's head vibrates and the camera goes haywire.
Mike
Word to the mother. I use 2 DYNOMAX Bullet mufflers and damn it "ITS LOUD!!!"
Why do I always get the impression, that when this is brought up, that the "problems" are all inclusive, that it happens to everyone who has an HS header? Has it happened to a number of people? Yes, w/o doubt... but not even close to everyone. Why do we hear about it every time this is brought up? Because only people who are dissatisfied make any noise, as is their right.
Now, why does HS continue to put out new generations of headers? Because they do the friggin research and testing to improve on the previous generation... for us. This is something OBX will never do, period. Right there is one of the biggest differences why the HS costs more than the OBX.
I'm ecstatic that they're putting out a Gen6 header, that means I'll probably be able to pick up a previous generation(#5) for less money. I don't even know yet if they will make any "changes" to the Gen5... even if they don't, that's what I'm still budgeting for.
Peace,
Mark
I know exactly why they come out with different headers and generations its in every prodect made out there.
it was a joke...
i dont care if OBX ever made another header, im not a race car driver and never will be one. so im happy with my header and will be forever untill the DET comes lol then the header will be no use to me haha.
but soon enough i will have my own house and i can start building my own lil shop and then i will do my own damn research
i will say that i have no doubt in my mind that hotshot puts out qaulity stuff and puts alot into there performance parts so that the consumer may get the most out of there product. but there always can be better (notice i said can and not there is). its all about how much you want to spend and how much time you want to research.
Uh you laugh at dumbsh*t. That wasn't funny. Haha. JP.
Um yeah, the OBX is ugly in the first place. Looks like them cameleon paint jobs. Dude, you got a purple header. JP. I was just going off what I seen from uh...MarcusMarc...I think that's his name.
I know exactly why they come out with different headers and generations its in every prodect made out there.
it was a joke...
i dont care if OBX ever made another header, im not a race car driver and never will be one. so im happy with my header and will be forever untill the DET comes lol then the header will be no use to me haha.
but soon enough i will have my own house and i can start building my own lil shop and then i will do my own damn research
i will say that i have no doubt in my mind that hotshot puts out qaulity stuff and puts alot into there performance parts so that the consumer may get the most out of there product. but there always can be better (notice i said can and not there is). its all about how much you want to spend and how much time you want to research.
"it was a joke"... Sorry, I figured it was, just was getting a little gunshy
"but soon enough i will have my own house and i can strt building my own lil shop..." .... I hear that, brother. We're currently selling our smaller house and looking for a bigger one. Bigger one must have a 2 car garage with room to build work shop right next to it.
And "bingo", you're spot on in your last paragraph... very true.
"it was a joke"... Sorry, I figured it was, just was getting a little gunshy
"but soon enough i will have my own house and i can strt building my own lil shop..." .... I hear that, brother. We're currently selling our smaller house and looking for a bigger one. Bigger one must have a 2 car garage with room to build work shop right next to it.
And "bingo", you're spot on in your last paragraph... very true.
Peace,
Mark
people always say thats so expensive and yea it is, but it saves money in the long run to have your own shop. i mean come on. youll never have to pay a mechanic to do a job again! ill bet if we crunched the numbers we would find that over a course of a few years we will be close to saving an amount of dollars that will make us go
see im holding my b12 untill i buy a house because i dont want to let it go , to much memories with it. but i am getting yelled at to get rid of it lol . oh well i can divert moving it for a while longer.
Uh you laugh at dumbsh*t. That wasn't funny. Haha. JP.
Um yeah, the OBX is ugly in the first place. Looks like them cameleon paint jobs. Dude, you got a purple header. JP. I was just going off what I seen from uh...MarcusMarc...I think that's his name.
Jason
ummm.... any stainless header for any car will change colors. it's the nature of stainless steel when it heats up from the exhaust gases....
Like someone said before OBX is way better quality then pacesetter in every way. Now the fact they stole HS design is not cool at all. You guys say that HS is overpriced, but if people keep ripping off design and HS can't make money we will lose a company that has developed many great parts for our cars. But def OBX over Pacesetter. BY FAR!
The car pulls a lot harder than I initially thought. When downshifting and gassin' it, it pulls hard all the way to about a couple hundred revs shy of redline. Now, only if the clutch could hold....
The thing is as blue and dull-finished as it can get, but I couldn't care less...
Like someone said before OBX is way better quality then pacesetter in every way. Now the fact they stole HS design is not cool at all. You guys say that HS is overpriced, but if people keep ripping off design and HS can't make money we will lose a company that has developed many great parts for our cars. But def OBX over Pacesetter. BY FAR!
Peace
Jon
does hotshot have a patten on there headers?
if they do than they can press leagal action, if they dont then oh well. nothing you can really do.
im curious to know weather there is a patten or not. if they dont then you really cant point the finger at anyone for making the same design.
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