: Anyone using a TEC II?
Reason why I'm asking is I was reading on another BB about this guy who just turbo'd his civic. He has a TEC and has it setup to where it gradually increases boost from gear to gear to help eliminate wheelspin. I have been thinking about getting rid of my se-r because of traction problems. Not current but if I was to turbo it. I want a fast streetable car. Not something that just kicks a$$ on the track. Does anyone have any ideas?
TurboMiata 01-24-2002, 02:36 PM You can get that result from a AVC-R Boost controller. But for engine Managment TEC II is one of the best out there. I am actually installing mine tomorrow. It uses a high resolution crank triggerd wheel to base timing off of. Basically a VERY good crank angle sensor. Instead of having one tooth and one pickup it has 60 teeth and one pickup. It lets you tune the timing to the max.
Hope that helps
Danny
TurbochargedSER 01-24-2002, 03:21 PM Jim Banach is running Tec II on his GTiR Powered 200SX SE-R. EIP Tuning tuned it for him.
97 Black SER 01-25-2002, 04:19 PM http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11146
Bowlcut 01-25-2002, 07:47 PM Well ill open up this can of worms then.
TEC II and streetable are two terms that are hard to put together. Some say its just fine, most say its a pain. Cause it goes from MAF to MAP and you have to have retune the car for different environamental conditions like humidity tempature and elevation. So just gettin the TEC II and installing it isnt the end. Then you gota start tuneing it. After that you arent going to be making the same HP levels on a hot humid day or if you decide to take that trip to Denver or even up the mountain by your house.
While it is a great system, runing it daily will tend to get to be a pain. It will make more power than a JWT when tuned right, but then again you will be tuneing it alot.
jbanach77 01-26-2002, 05:00 PM actually the tech is a self tuning adjustable unit to conditions. you first have to get a cold start set up then everything after that is a piece of cake. as far as tuning the tech it isn't as hard as everyone thinks. as louis said i am running a tech 2 on my gti-r motor, and i love it. never had any sort of problems with it at all. you don't need to constantly re tune the tech all the time, that is a mis conseption. but if you add newer upgraded parts then yes you will have to change the parameters of the program. also the guys from sleepermotorsport.com run a tech 2 unit on their gti-r powered race car.
jimmy
1996 200sx gti-r motor
jimmy-
What kind of expertise does it take to tune a TEC II? From what you know about my and my level or expertise, do you think I would do ok with one?
Do you still need an ECU for a car to run a TEC II- or does the TEC II replace the whole thing? I believe the former is true...
Everyone always says (particularly Cadle and Kojima) "You need a good 5 wire O2 sensor like a Horiba to really tune the fuel system on a turbo car." Does the TEC II come with something comparable to this O2 sensor?
Cjburn 01-27-2002, 11:32 AM No, TEC II do not come with a five wire O2 sensors (wide bands). They come with a very crappy Ford O2 sensor. They completely take the ECU's place when it comes to timing advance, injector pulse width, idle. Everything it takes to run a motor. It's been awhile since I was able to play with my friends. His car has one and it's been down while he gets his fuel system up to par. It's a fun little thing to play with, but I have no clue on what I'm doing.
se-riously boosted 01-27-2002, 05:16 PM U said it takes the complete place on the ecu. How will u then run all the other sensors in the car??. I know that some of them are not needed, but what about lights, relays, airbags and all that stuff that is wired into the main harness that goes to the ecu. It may be a stupid question, but i'm thinking of not using my JWT ecu.
unlucky 01-27-2002, 07:41 PM Danny(turbomiata)put his in last night...I think he stayed up all night doing it so he could run in an autocross today..I left at around 2am and they still had PLENTY left to do! You gotta love the troopers like that!! I was surprised at how easy the installation was. Its not that hard...If you have to knowledge to turn a wrench, you can do this. Tuning without a dyno won't be easy though. The JWT ECU is so convenient, and it's cheaper than a standalone. For the everyday, average "Joe" it'll do.
Peace
travis
b-b00gie 01-27-2002, 10:06 PM Originally posted by se-riously boosted
U said it takes the complete place on the ecu. How will u then run all the other sensors in the car??. I know that some of them are not needed, but what about lights, relays, airbags and all that stuff that is wired into the main harness that goes to the ecu. It may be a stupid question, but i'm thinking of not using my JWT ecu.
Your ECU is an "engine control unit" not an accessory controller. It doesnt control your headlights and other doo-dadz.
se-riously boosted 01-28-2002, 01:08 PM Right!. I understand that much. But what happens to all the wires that run to the plug on the ecu. Some wires are from the sensors that I wont need anymore, but others are from lights, fan relays, wires that run to the airbag computers, rear tailights and cluster gauges. I was lookin at a layout of the wiring harness for our cars and it seems like a pain. Do i just cut the wires for the sensors that I don't need no more and leave the plug alone??.
b-b00gie 01-28-2002, 01:24 PM Your lights and other accessories dont run to your ECU.
The connections which go to your ECU are for engine related sensors and signals. Thats it.
CharlieH98 01-29-2002, 01:53 PM Anybody ever try this one? $800 for standalone? Would you need MSD for spark?
034 stand alone ECU (http://www.034efi.com/034ecu.html)
Almost as cool as this "quasi-consult for pc" for around $100
virtual dashboard OBD2 (http://www.obd-2.com/)
Cheers,
Charlie :)
92nx2000 01-29-2002, 08:55 PM Originally posted by Chris Colburn
No, TEC II do not come with a five wire O2 sensors (wide bands). They come with a very crappy Ford O2 sensor. They completely take the ECU's place when it comes to timing advance, injector pulse width, idle. Everything it takes to run a motor. It's been awhile since I was able to play with my friends. His car has one and it's been down while he gets his fuel system up to par. It's a fun little thing to play with, but I have no clue on what I'm doing.
SucKit 01-30-2002, 12:08 AM THe AEm computer coming out is supposed to be the hot shiet. Maybe Yellow4g63 can comment since it was based on the Pro Efi for the dsm's. http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10402&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 This is about 20 pages from the designer himself of what it can do and answers to why its so good. I was amazed and considering this as the next step.
Calum 01-30-2002, 12:26 PM ...and no nissan applications listed for plug 'n play. Heck, even if they did, you know it'd be the 300ztt before they did a little sentra.
Originally posted by SucKit
THe AEm computer coming out is supposed to be the hot shiet. Maybe Yellow4g63 can comment since it was based on the Pro Efi for the dsm's. http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10402&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 This is about 20 pages from the designer himself of what it can do and answers to why its so good. I was amazed and considering this as the next step.
SucKit 01-30-2002, 01:38 PM I emailed the guy to ask for a plug and play version. On page 2 He lists his email address for any questions. I mailed him and he replied that they dont play to and if the do it will be by mid summer. Im hopefully getting the wire-in race by next month so lets see if all goes well.
Jaketips42 01-30-2002, 04:23 PM Has anyone ever used a Haltech system in their SE-Rs? I am thinkin about it for this summer.
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