Gang--

I lucked out. As part of the T25 setup I purchased from Jody (1fastser), I received a new SR20Development T25 downpipe. And I must add, this thing is a freakin' work of art. The welds are very nice, and the bends are smooth, mandrel-bent style.

Here's some pics of it, next to the 2.25-inch 'stocker' that I had planned on putting on my '93 (it has been sold, btw) :
http://www.sr20de.org/images/gallery.php?op=view&cat=Sentra%20SE-R%20%28Classics%29&img=sr20dp1.jpg

http://www.sr20de.org/images/gallery.php?op=view&cat=Sentra%20SE-R%20%28Classics%29&img=sr20dp2.jpg

http://www.sr20de.org/images/gallery.php?op=view&cat=Sentra%20SE-R%20%28Classics%29&img=sr20dp3.jpg

For those of you thinking about buying a SR20Development downpipe, I can highly recommend this unit. I merely lucked out getting it as part of the package, and hadn't even considered their pipe before. Now, I'm sold.

how much did u pay?? what did u get in there package?

:eek:

kesi24--

What did I get in their package? Sorry, try to be more clear. I bought a *used* T25 setup. I just lucked out and got this downpipe in on the deal is all.

-GP-

The other, shitty looking downpipe was the one from my Sentra! LOL Mike Jez paid $250 to have that POS downpipe made. Is it even 2.25"? Next to my 2.5" Courtesy exhaust it looked like 2".

Btw that other downpipe cost 10hp over open turbo elbow, 30hp with stock exhaust along with it, and you could gain 0.5 seconds in the quarter mile by dropping that downpipe, stock cat, and Courtesy exhaust off the car. :D

Is that fitting just after the flange for the o2 sensor? That's a mega-nice looking piece.

Ok I always figured sr20 development put out a quality product until I saw what they called quality with that Downpipe you pictured, Those welds, lol lets not even call them welds cause all that is is splatter, running too hot and just spitting it on there. That is a discrace and I would not even except that product. Shit they didnt even grind the splatter off, who the hell welded that Ray Charles? Who ever did that needs a serious refresher course, shit fuck that they don't even have hope. Take the rod out of their hands. That is Hidious, I know this post may seem harsh but jesus. I've been a fabricator for quite some time and pride myself in quality, man I would not be surprised if you hit a dip and that thing breaks into pieces. You can tell the weld and the material did not fuze together, it is just laid on top like a cosmetic. Id throw that shit back in their face.

Below is what a dp should look like:

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/A9/26/7207081-b208-028001E0-.jpg

What about my old, used, $250 piece? Are the welds any good on that? LOL :D:p

Originally posted by Ben98SentraSE
What about my old, used, $250 piece? Are the welds any good on that? LOL :D:p

That would be a negative Ben screems amature hour ;)

Well soooooorrrryyy, Mike. You're not going to bring me down on this downpipe. As I said...I lucked out and got it as part of the package for a very good price. Considering what I had before, it is a quantum leap up in size and quality.

And, I do not care what the welds look like. As long as they work, that's good enough for me.

-GP-

Hey dude, I am not trying to insult you, just mearly stating the obvious. If they send people craftsmanship like that then me personally I would not purchase anything from them. But Like I said Me, If you are happy with your purchase, good for you man. Im happy you are on your way to turbonium. Have fun with your investment.

Originally posted by SERprise In WV
Well soooooorrrryyy, Mike. You're not going to bring me down on this downpipe. As I said...I lucked out and got it as part of the package for a very good price. Considering what I had before, it is a quantum leap up in size and quality.

And, I do not care what the welds look like. As long as they work, that's good enough for me.

-GP-

hey dude whatsup, I really need a downpipe and is desperate and I can't afford a good one, would you be willing to sell your old one and if so how much do you want for it. I know this is off topic but you can make yourself some money.

you can wither e-mail me or just post a reply I'll check this thread soon

thanks


kenley_ser@yahoo.com

i got a question?? can anyone help me how much boost can u push to an sr20det bluebird motor with a t3/t04e hybrid turbo, jwt ecu, cobra maf, jwt fuel rail, 50lb injectors, msd ignition, fuel regulator, apexi intercooler, downpipe, apexi air fuel converter and apexi ignition timing control & ngk platinum plugs #6.. can this set up be push safley to 17 psi?? please help thanks

Hey Mike,
You're right the welds don't look that great, but I guess not everyone has a TIG. They'll hold just fine, and if you are a experienced welder, you know that. The main thing is that there are no pinholes. Just becaust they have a shop and offer something for the motor as an awesome low budget upgrade doesn't mean they are professional welders. The welds are good enough, plain and simple. If they contracted it out, it would only up the price. I'm sure most will trade spatter for $$$. BTW you couldn't pay me to put that D/P in your picture on my car, the welds are pretty but the engineering sucks. I bet that no flexpipe having d/p is awesome at crackin tubular manifolds. Some of us like the streetable low buck deal. BTW, the welds on the D.P are nice, but not that nice, if you have a criticism for that I'll send pics of my intercooler piping for you to drool on. Thanks for listening!
John

You're right the welds don't look that great, but I guess not everyone has a TIG.

LoL that makes me laugh. You can make quality welds with a MIG machine too if you know how to dial the machine in, I bet you didn't know that, shit well of course you didnt cause you wouldn't have made that statement.

The main thing is that there are no pinholes.

Well to tell you the truth the photo wasn't that close to tell, The from just looking at the picture I bet you if I got a closer look I can find some perosity in there somewhere.

Just becaust they have a shop and offer something for the motor as an awesome low budget upgrade doesn't mean they are professional welders.

Damn I didn't know good welds had to cost you money, if that were the case I guess people I know should be charging out the ass.

I'm sure most will trade spatter for $$$. BTW you couldn't pay me to put that D/P in your picture on my car, the welds are pretty but the engineering sucks.

That Downpipe in that photo is for a t4 turbo, the reason it doesn't have a flex pipe is quite simple at the time the owner of it didn't want one put on. BTW this unit will not crack like you say and flex pipe is used primarly to do with fabricators not being able to get the unit to fit right. They use flex pipe and bellows as well to make up for poor fabrication. Also by placing brackets where needed, the parts that tend to break won't break.

BTW, the welds on the D.P are nice, but not that nice, if you have a criticism for that I'll send pics of my intercooler piping for you to drool on.

You must have super human vision cause the welds in that photo aren't very clear, I would love to see some photos of your god like intercooler piping, I bet you 20 I can one up you on anything you got. Care to take that challenge? The thing is friend I know quality, and that dp is not quality that is just quanity, How much will joe smo pay for this, cmon dude that is hidious and I would never expect anyone to pay for it.

Relax, boys.

From here on out, no more pics of my turbo stuff. It just ends up in a big 'ol argument, just like this thread.

Everyone's a critic.

-GP-

Actually Greg, please post your pics, I often go to your site just to look at your car because I am very impressed on how clean looking it is, You did a gread job with your ride. Im not criticising you, I am criticising the fabricator. But I still love your car ;)

Originally posted by SERprise In WV
Relax, boys.

From here on out, no more pics of my turbo stuff. It just ends up in a big 'ol argument, just like this thread.

Everyone's a critic.

-GP-

I know that quality can be made with a MIG, but if you tell me the pics you compare on your downpipe are made with a MIG than you are the individual that knows nothing. Point made.
I did not state that there were not any pinholes or "porosity", I stated in general that pinholes need to be the concern not the spatter. Another point.
See, good welds do cost the end customer money if you are not proficient enough to make them. The comparison is that the welds will suffice, bang for the buck. Point made
I never said the downpipe would crack. I said the manifold. It doesn't matter how great you fit it, not all of the exhaust weight is going to be magically transfered to the hangers. Some will fall on the manifold (I am talking about a car that is daily driven not sitting statically, the flex section is needed for added give in the pipe). The manifold may not, but it may well to just the same degree, not a chance I wanna take on my car. As for the size of the turbo it was made for, it has no determination in the laws of physics. Now if you said, it was for a race care with no exhaust I could understand. Point made.
As far as the picture of my pipes, I'll send it privately if you so desire, if you go sit in your shop and weld all night til you get a better one, good for you, I don't think that needs to take up space on this thread.
Your opinions are usually valued, but in this instance, a bit overlydramatic and slightly uncalled for. SR20DEvelopement is not doing any great injustice by selling this pipe and just because you weld better doesn't mean they are. If you intend to design and sell a higher quality alternative for the same price, by all means go ahead. Until that time, put out or get out. People looking for an alternative should not be scared off by your careless rantings. On that note I am done with this thread. Thanks again!

OK, I thought I was done. He's right, keep posting pics. Its good stuff. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, its what the place is here for. Mike no hard feelings. I respect your car too. Its all good stuff around here.

hey it is good stuff. I don't agree with him about the flex pipe thing but I too am spoiled by good welds now. But before I met mike an his dad I would have thought nothing of the SR20 Downpipe. Still nothing wrong with it.