: 90mm 12:1 CR pistons by CP
OnyxEros 12-04-2005, 11:14 AM These pistons are for the VE head 90 mm with 16ve valve reliefs and are flat top.
The stock 16ve piston weighs 331g the 90mm ones below weigh 338g
I sent in a 16VE piston for comparison so they could get the valve reliefs correct. They have also notched the skirt for oil squirters.
Now the info everyone wants...
Since you can only order CP pistons from an authorized dealer I went to
Modern Performance here in NJ
http://www.modernperformanceinc.com/
My invoice #2568
If you call Nick (owner of Modern Performance Inc) he can order the EXACT set up i have, it will run you about $575 depending on options. You can also reference this invoice if you want to build something a little different.
Let's say you want 87mm bore 9:1 CR and dish. Nick can create a modified version of my invoice and send to CP.
Keep in mind these are pistons for N/A so if you want a turbo version they may be slightly more expensive due to different metal content. I have also posted this in my VE build thread below but this is for you quick searchers that don't want to go through the entire thread.
Let me know if you have any questions
blairellis 12-04-2005, 10:15 PM Sweet :) Looks good Chris. Keep posting those pics.
b12sr20ve 12-05-2005, 07:54 AM so youve ordered custom made pistons to net 12:1 cr and have valve nothces like th 16ve pistons?
OnyxEros 12-05-2005, 08:30 AM so youve ordered custom made pistons to net 12:1 cr and have valve nothces like th 16ve pistons?
yep (message too short)
kesi24 12-05-2005, 03:36 PM Look's good bro.Who's making your headgasket?
Andreas Miko 12-05-2005, 05:15 PM I have 2 90mm VE head gaskets ready to go.
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 09:36 PM Keep in mind these are pistons for N/A so if you want a turbo version they may be slightly more expensive due to different metal content. I have also posted this in my VE build thread below but this is for you quick searchers that don't want to go through the entire thread.
What do you mean by "metal content"?
OnyxEros 12-05-2005, 09:51 PM I ordered the gasket set from Mossy with the Metal headgasket I will send it to Benson (they are doing my sleeves) and they will cut it along with sleeving, boring and final honing.
Metal content for turbo pistons and N/A aftermarket pistons are different there is more silicon in forged N/A pistons causing them to expand less than forged Turbo pistons.
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 10:13 PM Metal content for turbo pistons and N/A aftermarket pistons are different there is more silicon in forged N/A pistons causing them to expand less than forged Turbo pistons.
http://www.sr20forum.com/img/data/500/Under.JPG
Hmmm, that sure looks like 2618 low silicon alloy, not 4032 high silicon alloy.
What company makes a 90mm head gasket for the VE?
OnyxEros 12-05-2005, 10:18 PM gone
Andreas Miko 12-05-2005, 10:21 PM Dont foget to notch the pistons for the oil squirters.
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 10:26 PM Metal content for turbo pistons and N/A aftermarket pistons are different there is more silicon in forged N/A pistons causing them to expand less than forged Turbo pistons.
Wouldnt expansion be more of a concern in a forced induction motor with higher cylinder temperatures? How is expansion more of a problem in a NA motor than a F.I. motor?
Typically the 4032 is used in lower powered street cars, NA or FI, because it can run with tighter piston to wall clearances, which reduces noise caused from piston slap. The silicon content also provides a sort of lubricity resulting in better wear characteristics for a street motor. The downfall of a high silicon 4032 piston is its ultimate strength is 20-30% less (depending on the percentage of its silicon content) than a low silicon 2618 alloy forging.
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 10:28 PM how do you tell that by looking at the piston?
no one stocks a 90mm headgasket, except Miko
You can visible see the dark blackish grey silicon grains in a 4032 alloy forging. This would be most visible on the underside of the piston since there is no machining there. Most 2618 forgings will be a pure silverish color. Anyway, maybe it's just the picture....
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 10:32 PM how do you tell that by looking at the piston?
no one stocks a 90mm headgasket, except Miko
Thanks. I called cometic but it seems they will only comfortably do 89mm tops. Its not that the SR cant handle it, I guess it has to with the tooling. They are working on setting their embossing back to more suitably work with a 90mm bore in the near future.
STRATTON 12-05-2005, 10:36 PM would these guys be able to produce a 2.2 bore piston of the same designe and compression ?
stratton.
Andreas Miko 12-05-2005, 10:36 PM Mine were made at Cometic but I have a friend there and he did it for me. It cost a little money because it was the first time and only time they did it and they had to be xtra carefull.
Andreas Miko 12-05-2005, 10:36 PM would these guys be able to produce a 2.2 bore piston of the same designe and compression ?
stratton.
The piston companies will make whatever you want.
hybrid D E T 12-05-2005, 10:40 PM Mine were made at Cometic but I have a friend there and he did it for me. It cost a little money because it was the first time and only time they did it and they had to be xtra carefull.
Just curious, how set back is the embossing (fire ring)? I have a friend over there too. Who do you know?
Andreas Miko 12-05-2005, 10:43 PM Just curious, how set back is the embossing (fire ring)? I have a friend over there too, Jason Moses. Who do you know?
I will take pics of the head gasket with me measuing it. Give me a day or two to get Serban over here.
As far as who I know I cant say as I might get them introuble but like I said I have them and they are done by cometic.
bigtoe 12-06-2005, 05:18 AM 90mm bore Cometic x 2 in my possession as well. Got them three months ago.
Must be your Miko, cause I asked for 89mm and got 90mm.
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