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Awwwwwww yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh......

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Is this going in the Geo Metro? Sweet!

Are you fabing the motor mounts? What are you doing for ECU and wiring?

This motor has a spun bearing so I'm going to do whatever and get it working again. We will tear the bottom end apart on Friday evening and see whats up.

Motor mounts will be fabbed, one of the Metro ones might just line up perfectly, but the odds are against it. Will use a stock 91-93 ECU, just enough of the wiring harness that I need, I have a 93 instrument cluster for it, dunno about axles yet, Metro already is a cable clutch/rod shifter car, yup. This is going to work out nice. :)

stensland rocks!

Screw the motor, Fazolies YUUMMMMMMMMM!


J.K. Damn Ben your on crack, that will be BADASS

oh my, your serious....lol

If you really get this done I will shit my pants. good luck :D

i think SCC, in addition to the USCC, should have the USBC (ultimate shitbox challenge) and ben, i think this one might be a ringer! plus, it is sleeper as all hell. you should do a conversion to low compression DET pistons, while youre in there, and bolt on a t25 or t28.

for the axles you could use the SE-R splines on the tranny side, build a custom axle shaft, and put the metro splines on the other end. hopefully you wont be snapping them all the time. i would recommend cryo-treatment and shot peening.

IT will be the best thing that ever happened to a GEO. Well other than getting totaled and put out of there misary.

You know, there's just something funny about this picture. An sr20 car hauling another sr20. Trucks, who needs 'em, right? :p



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how do you post pics?
I tow se-r's with my se-r
I've got a pic of that

Jason
towed an se-r from NJ to VA
and I didn't stop off to see Chrissy

good luck Ben

you need to have it on a web site somewhere. Then when you are making a message to the board, you just click on the IMG button in the tool bar, right above where you type. It will ask you for the address and type or paste the address of the pic there. It will automaticly show up.

Originally posted by Chrissy
oh my, your serious....lol

If you really get this done I will shit my pants. good luck :D
I would pay to see that :)

"This motor has a spun bearing so I'm going to do whatever and get it working again. We will tear the bottom end apart on Friday evening and see whats up."

Ok, how many people have actually repaired the infamous "spun bearing" problem? The usual response is to just get another motor, or a complete rebuild. But here's a case where you just got another motor and it already has a spun bearing. Seems the wisdom is that in this case you need to replace the crank because of bearing size issues. And, if it's a rod bearing you should probably tear the engine apart to get the offending rod checked out. Seems conventional wisdom would say junk this motor and find one without a spun bearing.

I ask this question for this reason - I have a spare engine with a spun bearing, and have considered repairing it for when (not if...) my current crappy motor expires. But it would seem from what I've heard that it's not worth messing with it unless I want to do a full-on rebuild. Repairing it would be great, but doesn't sound likely. Am I missing something? I would love to know if this is something people have done with some success.:confused:

Sorry to hijack this thread with this question, the swap sounds great, can't wait to see the results!

It seems to me a lot of the people on the list/forum are afflicted with Kojimitis. You know, "as long as you are in there..." :). And they end up figuring that since the JDM motors are so cheap, they might as well swap one in rather than take apart the motor. I would do this too if I weren't always so strapped for cash. Fact is though there's no reason you can't just replace the bearings in a car with a mild rod knock. Think about it... the bearings are a very soft metal, the crank is hardened forged steel. The bearing takes the vast majority of the punishment when the oil film breaks down. Of course if you do get stupid and continue to race and drive hard for several thousand miles with it knocking away, don't be surprised if the bearing just can't take anymore and disintegrates. Once that happens, fixing the bad motor *will* cost a lot more than a JDM one. That said, I drove my white car about 6000 miles with a rod knock, including 4 autocrosses, a trip from Maine to St. Louis and back, and 7000 rpm 1-2 shifts every other day. The crank was perfect when I opened it up. But don't try that at home :).

Josh

So, a spun bearing is when the oil film is no longer there and you get metal to metal contact, and rod knock is the noise created from the now-loosened tolerence between the rod bearing and crank journal?

Yup.

Edit: ok, that's not totally truthful - a *spun* bearing actually refers to a bearing that has warped or disintegrated such that it has jumped off the detents on the rod and cap, and is now spinning along with the crank inside the rod. This is obviously Very Bad for your motor. Most of the people around here really just have rod knock, but the terms seem to get used interchangably.

Josh

and besides, what Ben is using this motor for it only has to last a couple of days by the sounds of it.

To bad you guys are'nt up here in Canada, you could have used the Nissan Micra (86-92) they importrd up here. Been thinking of doing that for some time now 1.0 L to 2.0 L in a 1500 lb car. WOW

Hardened? I know it is forged, but I don't think it is then hardened. Anyone care to take a file to their crank to see if it leaves a mark? I bet it does.

Originally posted by MEclassic
the crank is hardened forged steel.

Well the parts of the crank caps we were pulling on with pliers were making marks. No big deal, but for the record, it made marks. :)

Hardened?

Uh, you should probably know I talk out of my ass a lot... :). I was sorta guessing at that. In any case, it's a *lot* harder than the bearing material. I can scratch those with a fingernail!

Josh

Thanx alot Jason you hick! ;)

So what exactly is Ben using this for...