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AaroNX
02-21-2006, 05:20 PM
Got a xtreme PP and street disc. Whenever I put them in, I can't get the pp to disengage. Aybody got any Ideas of what I need to do?

SHAWNATGERBROCK
02-21-2006, 08:03 PM
More detail ... what exactly is it doing or not doing ....What do you mean by Disengage ??.....

SENTRASER
02-21-2006, 08:33 PM
is the clutch adjusted corredctly?

AaroNX
02-21-2006, 10:56 PM
The problem is, that when I tighten down the PP to the flywheel, the pp is automatically disengaged because of how thick the disc is. When you sit them on the flywheel there is a gap between the PP and flywheel. When you put the bolts on and tighten them down all the way, it is causing the PP to sort of bottom out on the disc, so that it can't move out anymore to disengage. I'm going to have to use some spacers between the PP and flywheel to get this to work. This is a stock flywheel BTW.

Let me know if any of this doesn't make sense.

R0b_
02-22-2006, 12:24 AM
Doesn't make any sense.

It won't disengage until you press in the clutch pedal, which pulls a cable, which pulls a lever, which pushes the throw-out-bearing into those little fingers on the pressure plate.

When you are bolting it up, it SHOULD be fully engaged.

Do you have the disk in properly? There is a flywheel side and a pressure plate side to it.

AaroNX
02-22-2006, 12:27 AM
I knew it wouldn't make sense. I had it all installed but with the pedal pushed in the clutch wouldn't disengage so that I could put it into gear. It would just grind. So I took it out to see where the problem was. Look at it this way. The clutch is so engaged that there is not enough room left for the pp to disengage. Does that make sense?

AaroNX
02-22-2006, 12:28 AM
Oh and if you put the disk in backwards it won't even sit flush with the flywheel, so yeah its in right.

markbuts3
02-22-2006, 12:31 AM
If you look on here lots of people have had to put spacers or redrill the bracket to move the outer part of the clutch cable towards the firewall to gain enough adjustment...

SENTRASER
02-22-2006, 12:39 AM
The problem is, that when I tighten down the PP to the flywheel, the pp is automatically disengaged because of how thick the disc is. When you sit them on the flywheel there is a gap between the PP and flywheel. When you put the bolts on and tighten them down all the way, it is causing the PP to sort of bottom out on the disc, so that it can't move out anymore to disengage. I'm going to have to use some spacers between the PP and flywheel to get this to work. This is a stock flywheel BTW.

Let me know if any of this doesn't make sense.
Did you have it machined? If so, maybe they put too big of a step back into the flywheel.

98sr20ve
02-22-2006, 08:42 AM
Got a xtreme PP and street disc. Whenever I put them in, I can't get the pp to disengage. Aybody got any Ideas of what I need to do?


The Disc is under a great deal of pressure when you put it in. You should have a 3mm or more gap before you tighten all the bolt to the pressure plate down to take up that gap to the flywheel. It requires a wrench to take up the gap due to the pressure created by the pressure plate. That is normal.

AaroNX
02-22-2006, 09:20 AM
Haha you guys just don't understand. The gap is BIGGER than it should be. I know how it would normally be, I've installed clutches before. Since the gap is bigger, when you tighten down the PP, the disc pushes the pp back as if it is disengaged. The rings on the PP go from sticking outward pretty bad to completely flat. I guess pics would help more, if I get a chance I'll take some. I'm going now to try and get it all straightened out.

98sr20ve
02-22-2006, 09:45 AM
Haha you guys just don't understand. The gap is BIGGER than it should be. I know how it would normally be, I've installed clutches before. Since the gap is bigger, when you tighten down the PP, the disc pushes the pp back as if it is disengaged. The rings on the PP go from sticking outward pretty bad to completely flat. I guess pics would help more, if I get a chance I'll take some. I'm going now to try and get it all straightened out.

I do understand what you are saying now that you have said the above. I don't understand how that would happen. I bet if I saw it I would be able to visulize it. I would call ACT. This PP has a lot more tension in it then a normal one. Have you installed one like this before. My ACT HD one did not do what you describe. Seemed to have normal pressure before taking the slack up in the bolts. The Fingers going to the PP did not noticable change position as I tightened it down. Never seen that (what you describe) happening.

SHAWNATGERBROCK
02-22-2006, 03:00 PM
Hmm, once you tighten the PP on the flywheel , there should be NO clearance between the disk and flywheel or the disk and PP ... you are sure the disk is in with the flat side twards the engine and the hub/raised side twards the trans ..... Only other thing I can think of is you have the wrong parts ... I cant think of anything that would cause this .... some pics may help , assemble it and take some pics of what you are talking about ...!! Even with alot of step it should still go together normal .... I believe the step should be .008in to .015in. .....

Also the springs will go from outward to flat on alot of these , I know on our G20 4 puck/Extreme PP they are flat and have very little space to the disk , but the Extreme PP works with such a short through it works ok ... we did have to run a spacer on the cable so we could get the clearance right !!

myprojectB13
02-22-2006, 03:56 PM
Sounds normal to me. If you didn't try at least a 2" spacer on the clutch bracket, it won't even come close to disengaging.

Here's a pic of an HD pressure plate installed last week, note the flat fingers.

http://i.pbase.com/g3/66/611266/2/55695584.ACTHD6PK.19.jpg

AaroNX
02-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Got it all to work now. Main problem was the damn cable had come out of its bracket by the firewall. Couldn't believe it when I noticed it. Still had to use over 3 inches of spacers on the cable though.


On another note, I KNOW WHY THEY CALL IT XTREME NOW!!!!

myprojectB13
02-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Got it all to work now. Main problem was the damn cable had come out of its bracket by the firewall. Couldn't believe it when I noticed it. Still had to use over 3 inches of spacers on the cable though.


On another note, I KNOW WHY THEY CALL IT XTREME NOW!!!!

You'll have the strongest left leg in town in no time!