I am going to be buying a nitrous kit in the next week. I have been doing lots of reading on nitrous trying to prepare myself. I am planning on a 60hp shot through a single nozzle in my pr cai tubing..would i be better off with a wet or dry shot? I was planning on a wet but i just want to know what you guys think.. Also is there a certain distance from the throttle body i should place the nozzle? Thanks for all your help

I prefer the wet shot. I ran both on my car and honestly got more pull with a Wet shot. In my opinion a wet shot is a hell of alot safer. If I were you I would start off with a 50 wet shot. A 50 shot is a perfect start. And about the fogger I have been told that 4 to 6 inches away from the throttle body is perfect. I had mines about 4 inches away.

I ran a 14.1 with bolt-ons and a 50 wet shot. I sold my kit to Matt4nissan. Ask him how his car is running and you will understand were I am comming from. Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

If you have any questions feel free to ask and also Greg Perry and Andreas Miko are N2o masters. They will gladly help you as well! :D

{ducking} get some springs first :D {getting up} I remember when I had bigger rims on my car with no springs, whooooooooo

::Sleazy Voice Bot On:: I like my nitrous the same way I like my women... Wet! ::Sleazy Voice Bot Off:: :D Seriously though if it's not wet it's not worth the time. At one time I was running a 70 shot dry, and I can honestly say that my 50 wet pulls harder. This is with my SOTPD (seat of the pants dyno) I'm actually debating on upping the 50 a bit. I had a perfect readout of air/fuel mixture so I think I can still up it a bit more. And as far as 1/4 times go. I really don't know. I've raced a few cars.. And well lets just say I would have NEVER beaten them without it.

Are you guys doing a direct port wet Nitrous shot?? Or are you injecting fuel in to the plenum from a single fogger nozzle?? I wouldn't trust the wet shot from a single nozzle, fuel doesn't atomize the way nitrous does, and you probably won't get an even distribution of fuel in to all your cylinders.

It probably feels more powerful this way because you are running the same size nitrous jet, but less fuel is getting to your cylinders!! ack!

Frank Orozco
1996 200sx Se-R
Once on JWT 50 shot and 100 shot
12.4@108 on the juice
Now F-MAX Stage 2
350 whp/347 ft lbs of torque

I'm using a single fogger run into the intake. I also dyno'd the car at a place that had a a/f meter, and I was actually running perfect. My friend who ran the same size shot dry was reading lean.

Originally posted by brian
{ducking} get some springs first :D {getting up} I remember when I had bigger rims on my car with no springs, whooooooooo
the car is lowered i just dont have any recent photos of it lowered .. its kinda sad.. now i cant give my friends z71 a run for his money in the mud

I PREFER WET

Like I said before I ran a wet shot from a single fogger and had no problems. The car ran more on the rich side. It ran perfect! I think 14.1 at 102mph with a 50 wet shot says it all. :D

IMHO, the best setup would be a direct port dry system tuned from JWT.

the A/F meter (assuming it is a 6 wire wide band O2 sensor) will only see the average of the 4 cylinders. it CANNOT see what each individual runner is doing, unless you have one per cylinder.

Frank can tell you all about what can happen in single fogger systems. the velocity of the nitrous coming out of the fogger pushes it all the way back down the plenum into cylinder 4, making it burn a little lean. Frank's motor did this, as well as many other single fogger setups i have seen.

The wet system is even worse (Frank had the Wolf setup, which added fuel, evenly of course, through the injectors) when in single fogger mode, as the fuel doesnt atomize properly, and distribute properly. i can almost guarantee that there is no such thing as a evenly distributing single fogger setup for our cars. and you guys may say that that little bit wont hurt anything, but you may be racing a DSM car on the freeway, on a nice cold night, and your 4th cylinder may start detonating a little, not audibly though, and poof, there goes your motor. rod playing peek-a-boo out the side of the block and everything.

Wet nitrous systems are exactly what you pay for, a cheap solution for more power, at the risk of your motor. to say your motor is just as safe on the wet system as the JWT dry system is ludicrous, it just isnt as safe.

do it once, do it right. a penny saved is a penny spent tomorrow.

just do what most Nitrous guys do eventually anyway, and go turbo.

two of my friends busted out 13.4@101 on the JWT 50 shot. that speaks volumes about that setup.

jay hassinger reportedly busted out a 13.1@10X.XX

Luis busted out a 13.3@103 in his 250K+ crust mobile with the JWT setup.

I can back up what you guys are saying (Frank and Steve) about wet single Fogger setups: On my first setup (wet single Fogger), the car went no quicker/faster switching from a 50hp jetting to a 75hp jetting. Which told me that I had hit the end of the SR20 intake manifold's distribution abilities with regards to fuel.
Our intakes just weren't meant to flow anything 'wet'. That uphill transition from the lower to upper intake just gets in the way.

Now then...once I converted over to a direct-port wet setup (with the Foggers placed right before the injectors, shooting straight into the cylinder head/combustion chamber), the spark plugs told me it was a fantastic distribution setup. No matter whether we detonated (while dialing it in) or not, all 4 plugs read the same *exact* condition(s).

Here's what it looks like:
http://www.sr20de.org/images/images/Sentra%20SE-R%20%28Classics%29/oldmanny.jpg

Once dialed in, the setup was flawless. Over 100 dragstrip passes later, it still worked like a charm. Of course, it just came out for the T28. :D

My point? A wet direct-port setup (not ecu-controlled) can be very, very reliable and safe. IF tuned right. That's the hard part. With 78hp jets, stock cams, stock head, and even a *tiny* piece of exhaust pipe somewhere in the system (but I ain't telling where), the 151,000 mile engine went 13.89 @ 99mph. Which isn't too bad.

With a decent exhaust (2.5-inch), it would have easily gone 13.3 or 13.4 with no other mods, IMHO.

hey SERprise in wv, i pm'ed ya check it out ok..thanks

Originally posted by CruznSER
IMHO, the best setup would be a direct port dry system tuned from JWT.

I have the JWT 100 shot set up which uses a single dry fogger in the intake pipe before the throttle body. On the dyno I put down 151.4hp and 134.9tq off the bottle which has netted me a best 1/4 of 14.686 @ 95.62mph. With the JWT NOS I made 252.0hp and 257.9tq at the wheels! My best 1/4 ET is a 13.824 and my best MPH is 109.71. Remember, I run on the drag strip with my 17x7.5 TE-37's and Yoke A520's at 40psi which give me crappy 2.4 60' times. If I did not have the BABK I might have tried slicks by now, but I just don't care enough to do it with my current set up. Believe me when I tell you that it is plenty fast for the street. But I never officially said that I run the NOS on the street...wink...wink...:rolleyes:

What I am saying is that JWT is THE NUMBER ONE OPTION when it comes to a dry shot(in my opinion, take it how you will). They have obviously done their homework to get 100hp at the wheels on their 100 shot program.

From what I understand though, a direct port wet set up is the next best option as far as safety and price goes. There seem to be more people on this list witrh this set up than the JWT set up. There must be a reason for that. What ever floats your boat...

I do like the look on people's faces when I tell them I am running a 100 shot. "Man.....your gonna blow it up..." they like to say. And with that I laugh...."Just keep turning up the boost, we'll see who blows up first"

see ya!!

I would say don't use A single fogger at all (imho) I was checking my oil from the spark plug hole in the #2 cylinder. That was a 50 shot. The single fogger does'nt distribute the fuel and nitrous evenly. After I went to a direct-port wet setup I got 100+ races out of that before I sold the car. (still have the nos set up thinking that it will be a good spool up kit with smaller jet...)

Alright then all you NOS freaks...Let me ask you a question. I just ordered a NOS dry manifold kit, purge kit, blanket, fuel press switch and a few more accessories for 780$ shipped to my door. I want to install this within a few weeks. I did a compression & leakdown test 2 weeks ago, everything is a'ok within 2%. Will I be fairly safe with this setup? I won't need injectors or a pump until i goto 75/100 correct? I just dont wanna blow my motor. I suppose the JWT kit is the safest but also extremely expensive. As they say though, get what you pay for. Should I build a little before I install this? Ant input is appreciated.