Being that this deal is only covering classics SE-Rs and the springs lower about 1 inch how much would these springs lower our cars, assuming that the NX springs are longer than the classic. Would this be a good deal get with or should i just get the GC's.

I'd like to know too. I ordered the springs
but if they won't work well on the egg I guess
I'll just sell em.

Those springs should give a normal drop to the back, but will probably drop the front over 2.5 inches. I doubt this would very usable.

--Eric

WTF WTF WTF?!?!?!?!? 2.5 inches in the front? how so? im about to order mine, do oyu really think these springs will butcher an NX?

i don't think they will drop that much. these are very still spring with a high max wieght in the front. If they do drop more than the back it woudn't prolly be more than 2" tops.

Free height of a stock front spring (according to the '92 FSM):
- Sentra SE-R: 14.17in.
- NX2000 (M/T): 14.57in.

That's less than half an inch difference. I don't know where 2.5" of extra drop would come from, but it's not from the springs in this deal.

You'd be installing 300lb. springs up front, more than double the stock rate. Bottoming out wouldn't be a problem.

okay. so assuming the rear height is the same, the front will be dropped 1.4 inches and the rear 1 inch? Are the rear spring lenghts the same between the SE-R and the NX? that may look a bit tacky, but i probably wont install the springs for like 4 years, so hopefully someone will have figured it out by then.

1.4" drop front 1" drop rear doesn't sound
so hot. Is there anything that can be done
to get the front closer to a 1" drop?

Lighten the front (smaller battery)?

AGX struts (I hear they actually raise
the car a little bit)?

Maybe some sort of spacer to put under
the spring?

:confused:

I don't know much about suspension work,
so any comment would be much appreciated.

Thanks

I ordered them tool. I think that little extra drop in the front is going to look cool, it'll give the car a little bit (probably hardly noticable) raked appearance.

Maybe 2.5 inches was a little aggressive, but I think it will be a lot more than you think.
Please read this post before you buy your springs:

http://www.se-r-list.org/archives/1998/1998-08/msg01746.html

http://www.se-r-list.org/archives/1998/1998-08/msg01746.html


Free height of a stock front spring (according to the '92 FSM):
- Sentra SE-R: 14.17in.
- NX2000 (M/T): 14.57in.

That's less than half an inch difference. I don't know where 2.5" of extra drop would come from, but it's not from the springs in this deal.

You'd be installing 300lb. springs up front, more than double the stock rate. Bottoming out wouldn't be a problem.



The front spring rates in the NX are also higher than the SE-r on the stock springs. You did not mention this.

When installed and compressed, the 2 (very different) springs of the NX and Sentra have almost identical heights and use the same struts.

Your much shorter springs will not only make the car the extra half inch lower (+the desired 1 in), but will be even lower due to the extra weight of the front of the NX.

I can only go by the results of that post:


the (Eibach) SE-R prokits give the NX a 2.25"
drop


--Eric

Yeah, but they're also a higher rate spring, meaning that they won't compress as much as any aftermarket or stock spring.

Originally posted by RallyKid

I can only go by the results of that post:
"the (Eibach) SE-R prokits give the NX a 2.25"
drop"


The eibachs are a lower drop than these springs and are only 160 lbs, plus they are softer than stock. These special springs are like over 300 lbs and stiff as hell. They definatly should't drop, if any, more than .4 inches.

Well,

Ok, I did misread the spring rates on the special deal, I had thought it said 200 lb/in, So 1.5 in extra is probably an overestimate , but .4 in I still believe is an underestimate because it assumes the stock springs are the same rate, which they aren't. There will be AT LEAST .4 of extra drop, plus additional drop due to the extra weight of the NX.

I talked to several people about buying 280 lb/in springs from an Se-r that were intended to RAISE the car 1 in. They all agreed that the car would sit at least 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch lower than I wanted.

Unless someone does the math I'm not sure I would risk it.

--Eric

The front spring rates in the NX are also higher than the SE-r on the stock springs.
Referring to the '92 FSM again (page FA-28), both the SE-R and the NX2000 have the same stock front spring rates: 123lb/in. The Eibach Pro-Kits aren't the same, but the difference is minor: 150lb/in on the Sentra versus 160lb/in on the NX. Plus, Kit reported the difference in Pro-Kit heights is only a centimeter.

The dissimilarities are small to begin with, but with 300lb rates, I doubt it would matter at all. These aren't catalog street springs - they're serious high performance springs that push the upper end of the safe dampening ability of the AGXes. They're well over twice as stiff as the stock pieces, and doubly hard as the Pro-Kits (the more performance-oriented of the two Eibach sells).

We're talking .4" difference on the stock front springs (less than half as stiff as 300lb/in, remember). If they drop the Classic an inch, they're not going to drop a 5-speed NX2000 any more than 1.4". Probably less.

Unless someone does the math I'm not sure I would risk it.
I wouldn't pass up a rare offer on hearsay. This is apples and apples. If the springs in this deal are as great as they say they are, I think they would be similarly fantastic for the NX. I'm getting them for my Classic, but I'd just as quickly get them if I had a NX.

You can get hardcore, one-time-only 300/200 springs now, or call Riceboy Warehouse and order some crappy slammer springs any time. Otherwise, start saving up for Ground Controls and prepare to grind down the cap on your AGXes.

1.4 inches in the front and 1 inch in the rear thats a hot drop, sort like a type R drop where the nose is lower than the rear. The stock type R drop is so sweet. I have that type of drop now on my car sportlines in the front and prokits in the rear. I received many compliments already just cause it stands out. I just want a stiffer spring rate all the way around, a little less bottoming out.

Is this the deal on the Hiperco springs?

yep, they're Hypercoil. Jump in, get them, help us all out on pricing. I don't want the squeaks an the rattles of the GC, price is not an issue, but I want to hear my exhaust over suspension noise. Guys GET IN, it's 269.99 plus shipping, come on, that ain't shit. Seriously, all you have to do is buy shocks after that, no bottoming out issues....get in, jump on, pay up, and enjoy...please?

i am prety much for sure in on this deal. I have thought it over and I do not think the springs would be bad on our cars at all. Besides, if they dont, and you want to sell them, im sure they will be a hot item once people see what they actually do, but you may have the only set for sale!! lets hope it does not come down to this, but that aint bad for a worst case scenario!

Man I wish i had the money. I have prokits and KYB GR2's and the work much better then stock, but that is an awesome deal. Unfortantely I would have to buy new struts as well, because I dont think the GR2's could handle that. Plus I need an engine!

Originally posted by FastNX
okay. so assuming the rear height is the same, the front will be dropped 1.4 inches and the rear 1 inch? Are the rear spring lenghts the same between the SE-R and the NX? that may look a bit tacky, but i probably wont install the springs for like 4 years, so hopefully someone will have figured it out by then.

I think it is the free length of the NX spring that is slightly longer, not the compressed length. If so, these springs won't drop an NX 0.4" more than an SE-R. Probably more like 0.1", but that is only a guess. You would need to know the compressed hieght difference between the two springs, and then the additional drop for an NX will only be about half that difference because of the increased spring rate.
(above copied from my reply in the Classic forum)

FastNX, I saw your reply there, but I noticed this thread and thought some people might only read the NX thread.