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: Is this wheel bearing bad (video)


NJse-r
06-08-2006, 09:37 PM
Is this bearing bad? It's brand new, only about 10 miles on the thing. I am trying to track down some front end noise and I think this might be the culprit. I am thinking maybe it was pressed in wrong. It really does not move much at all, but it sounds like hell in the video. There is no play at all once the axle is bolted in, but I still think it might be beat. There is no play at all in the other wheel hub with the axle in or out. When I had the new bearing pressed in the hub and the knuckle were visually in good shape. The old bearings did not eat into the hub or knuckle.

http://home.comcast.net/~joeydelucia/wheelbearing.mpg

SE R Madness
06-08-2006, 09:45 PM
it sounds bad to me.. Might as well replace what's there and stop washing your wheels with Salt water.

R0b_
06-08-2006, 10:04 PM
Did you replace the hub race when you did the bearing? Just by looking at it, I'd guess you need to put in a new hub and bearing.

VVLtrain
06-08-2006, 10:31 PM
Yep you need a new bearing. It's not "too"bad now but it WILL go very bad soon. You should change the bearing and hub. Mine went on me before the convention and I changed it.

During my b15 tranny install I reached over to the knuckle assembly and noticed that something was not right. I shook it a little bit and the whole hub assembly popped out of the knuckle! DOH!

Definitely an unexpected sting in the wallet. It's not the cheapest part on an se-r, but definitely something I didn't want to skimp on.

-L

NJse-r
06-08-2006, 11:40 PM
Did you replace the hub race when you did the bearing? Just by looking at it, I'd guess you need to put in a new hub and bearing.

What do mean the hub race? The bearing is one piece and then there's the hub and the knuckle. The bearing (one piece) presses into the knuckle and then the hub is pressed into the bearing that's already presssed into the knuckle, right? Am I missing something. I don't think the races come apart from the bearing, at least when the bearing is not broken.

it sounds bad to me.. Might as well replace what's there and stop washing your wheels with Salt water.

Salt water, the car did not even have the chance to get wet! I had the new bearing for about 10 miles.

R0b_
06-09-2006, 12:06 AM
The hub inserts into the bearing, the machine shop guy pointed at the hub "spindle part" for lack of a better word, and called it the race, told me it was too worn, and I had to order a new hub as well.

Sucked, cost about $300 for a new set of bearings, hubs, seals, and machine shop to press it all together.

Just called it what the machinist called it man.

It goes together just like you said, bearing into knuckle, seals, then hub into knuckle.

Toolapcfan
06-09-2006, 02:57 AM
No, the bearing is not one piece, you have the inner race and two outer races which hold the bearings in. If you're lucky, the hub isn't chewed up and will press into the races of a new bearing without issue. If not, then you'll need a new hub and those my friend, are not cheap. About $330 for hub, bearing, snap ring, inner and outer seals. That's for both sides though.

liupj
06-09-2006, 03:22 AM
Yeah. That thing's toast. But, not that you need another person to verify. :(

NJse-r
06-09-2006, 08:02 AM
No, the bearing is not one piece, you have the inner race and two outer races which hold the bearings in. If you're lucky, the hub isn't chewed up and will press into the races of a new bearing without issue. If not, then you'll need a new hub and those my friend, are not cheap. About $330 for hub, bearing, snap ring, inner and outer seals. That's for both sides though.

My hub is fine. I think the machine shop (it was really an auto place with a press) pressed the bearing into the knuckle by the inner race, not the outer race like you are supposed to, and damaged the bearing in the process. Now I gotta go back there and ask how they pressed it in, and try to find out if they messed up or not. They are gonna love that.

NJse-r
06-09-2006, 10:58 AM
I went to the shop and taked to them. They told me how they pressed them in and they did do it right. The guy says sometimes it is possible to get a garbage bearing from the auto parts store, especially the one I went to. Or my hub is bad, which I don't think it is. How do you tell if the hub is bad? Mine looks fine, is it possible that they get out of round or something like that.

daveracer
06-09-2006, 11:09 AM
Why don't you just talk to Fred Casey. He will get you a used set of hubs for tons less than $330, with good wheel bearings.

R0b_
06-09-2006, 12:06 PM
The machinist pointed to my hub - (it had fallen out of the bearing anyway), and showed me a groove that had worn in the metal out toward the end.

Look to see if yours are smooth or have any grooves in it - the problem is you have to knock the hub out of the bearing to check... but then again, you have to do that to press in a new bearing anyway so you'll be doing the work

Daveracer - bravo! who's the avatar?

SE R Madness
06-10-2006, 07:22 AM
What do mean the hub race? The bearing is one piece and then there's the hub and the knuckle. The bearing (one piece) presses into the knuckle and then the hub is pressed into the bearing that's already presssed into the knuckle, right? Am I missing something. I don't think the races come apart from the bearing, at least when the bearing is not broken.



Salt water, the car did not even have the chance to get wet! I had the new bearing for about 10 miles.

I was just talking about how ruested everything looks..Any luck so far?

How do you tell if the hub is bad? Mine looks fine, is it possible that they get out of round or something like that.

When driving even at slow speeds you wheel will shake something serious.. It's almost like when you need your wheels to be balanced.
So, in that case It wouldn't hurt to get your wheels balanced.

NissanEgg
06-10-2006, 10:15 PM
ALWAYS BUY BEARINGS, SEALS, and GASKETS from the dealership. You will never have to worry about bad parts, and the OE part is just as good as if the car off the assembly line with it. May be pricey, but it's the only surefire way to go. I learned my lesson the hard way with parts stores' parts, and don't to go that route again.

NJse-r
06-10-2006, 10:35 PM
ALWAYS BUY BEARINGS, SEALS, and GASKETS from the dealership. You will never have to worry about bad parts, and the OE part is just as good as if the car off the assembly line with it. May be pricey, but it's the only surefire way to go. I learned my lesson the hard way with parts stores' parts, and don't to go that route again.

I here ya. I plan on buying the stuff from the dealer as well this time around. I mean I bought the bearing I have now from a parts store and look where it got me, right back where I started.

VVLtrain
06-11-2006, 01:13 AM
I here ya. I plan on buying the stuff from the dealer as well this time around. I mean I bought the bearing I have now from a parts store and look where it got me, right back where I started.

Yup, trust me I REALLY wanted to go the cheaper route. I have read a bunch of "shoulda got OEM parts" stories related to the hubs. I am sure that you can get away with aftermarket parts most of the time but with my ironically dumb luck, I didn't want to push it and find myself spending more money in the long run. So my wallet ended up pillow biting that one! Even better, this happened while prepping my car for convention 1 week before the convention started.

-L

black91
06-11-2006, 11:43 AM
haha i took my brake rotor off my left front and the whole damn hub came with it!!!! now thats when u know u have a bad wheel bearing