what car do you guys think is best for drifting s13 coupe or s14? im not really into looks i got i nx2k for that i want something i can get crazy in. do any of you guys drift your cars.

Any model of 240 will work good for drifting. The only thing that you really need is a LSD.

what exactly is drifting?

Originally posted by tg200ser
what exactly is drifting?

It's a popular sport in Japan where you attempt to slide your car or "drift" it around in a controlled manner around a course or city streets. The longer the drift the better!!

I would do an S13. Cheap so you won't care if you put it into a wall.

I think the better car would be the S13 or 180sx. They are alot cheaper to fix.
I like to faint and Sway drift. Brake drifting is a good way to begin. So is pulling the E brake but you have to remove the spring ( you know that clicking sound when you pull the E brake I think its a spring but I haven't removed mine )

I have a 97 240 so I rarely pull the E - Brake. And my car is much more expensive so I pull drifts when I know I have room to slide. But it is difficult to learn when your afraid to really let loose ( I love my car :) ) So I think I may buy a Fastback and teach myself on a vacant parking lot. I'm too timid with my S14 to really get good drifts.

Nismo

i was thinking that too. i love the look of the s14 but price will determine the winner. i see s14 for 3 to 4 thousand and s13 for around the same price i seem can't to find a blown motor s13 coupe (their the lightest) any body see any messed up (mechanical) s13 coupe can you please let me know. us need some drift cars drag raceing everybody do we need some new stuff to do.

Originally posted by LONEWOLF
i was thinking that too. i love the look of the s14 but price will determine the winner. i see s14 for 3 to 4 thousand and s13 for around the same price i seem can't to find a blown motor s13 coupe (their the lightest) any body see any messed up (mechanical) s13 coupe can you please let me know. us need some drift cars drag raceing everybody do we need some new stuff to do.

Yeah, it would be good but not everyone is responsible enough to drift their cars.
What I mean is that bumping or grazing up against someone elses car or having someone do it to you is your responsibility. Since both of you are drifting. Most people aren't ready to be responsible for their own damages no matter how it happens
( curbs, walls, rails, or an opponent ) So thats the main thing. That would take awhile but it would be interesting since hondas would become the minority. But things would get more dangerous on highways as well. But I'm down :)

Nismo

I heard a lot of people that drift just tape down the button on the E-brake. That way they still have it when they are parked on a hill. :)

itry to drift my g20 but i have the cravin for rwd sr20det power
i can wait to get sideways and drift into a ditch that would be so cool

Originally posted by whiteserspecv
I heard a lot of people that drift just tape down the button on the E-brake. That way they still have it when they are parked on a hill. :)

Yeah people tried that at first but the button still would move up and down causing it to eventually free the tape ( electrical ). I will ask about that though because they are still able to use the E brake. There may be something u can buy to keep from removing the mechanism. FF drivetrain drifters usually will ride with their hand on the E brake since its the main tool to getting a Front Wheel drive car to slide. They actually push in the button but FF drifting is E brake or no way at all so they already have the mind set to pull countinously on the E brake to balance out the slide.
( It sounds harsh :) )

Nismo

your right about people being responsible. i usually hang out with older guys and we going to take it nice and slow. i have nothing to prove. plus going straight is so dull now going sideways requires more skill i just want to "up" my driveing skills.

Originally posted by LONEWOLF
your right about people being responsible. i usually hang out with older guys and we going to take it nice and slow. i have nothing to prove. plus going straight is so dull now going sideways requires more skill i just want to "up" my driveing skills.

Yeah going straight is dull. Think about how bad the Japan racers have it: Silvias, Supras, MR2, Celica GT's, Lancers, Skylines, WRX's, GTi-R's, RX-7's, Soarers, FTO's , GTO's ( lions, tigers and bears OH MY :) ) All these cars ( and others )match up so closely that going in a straight line counts too much on drivetrain and horsepower. Straight aways will give advantages to Skylines, Lancers etc. And these cars also ( usually ) are the cars that rank high up in horsepower and their 4WD so they definently have the advantage. But drifting doesn't give the advantage to the more powerful car which is why I think its so popular. Plus the cops don't bother them like they do the Expressway racers. You don't see many of the really powerful cars drifting ( R33 - R34's, Supras, Lancers, WRXs ) besides the silvia. Theres lots of AE86's.

( Skylines seem to plow into the turns like a run away intercourse :) damn 900 horsepower! :) )

Originally posted by Nismo


Yeah people tried that at first but the button still would move up and down causing it to eventually free the tape ( electrical ). I will ask about that though because they are still able to use the E brake. There may be something u can buy to keep from removing the mechanism. FF drivetrain drifters usually will ride with their hand on the E brake since its the main tool to getting a Front Wheel drive car to slide. They actually push in the button but FF drifting is E brake or no way at all so they already have the mind set to pull countinously on the E brake to balance out the slide.
( It sounds harsh :) )

Nismo


Try pushing the button in, holding it in, drilling a hole through it, and get some sort of pin so you can put it in there when you want to go play around ;)

david lau
soon to be pin equipped

Originally posted by PNWser



Try pushing the button in, holding it in, drilling a hole through it, and get some sort of pin so you can put it in there when you want to go play around ;)

david lau
soon to be pin equipped


There's one way!

Nismo

honestly in drag raceing whoever spends the most money wins. not to say that driver skill count for nothing but it plays a major role. but no matter how much skill you have you can't make a 15 sec car a 13 sec car. with skill maybe a high 14 but not a 13 .you could walk into any speed shop now and say, "i want to go 12's how much is it going to cost." with drifting only thing that really matters is a good suspension and a good lsd. power helps but not as much as drag raceing requires. there is formula for drag raceing now. you can walk in the store and say. "i want a 12 sec street car." and the shop will say "how you want you car sir." all motor, nos, or turbo, its like shoping at mcdonalds. now if you can't go 12 it usually not the car problem. its your driveing skills.

I would have to say that powersliding is the most popular method for RWD drifting. I love doing it so much that I would do it in the parking lot of a grocery store if I had enough power :D

Lift throttle oversteer or trail braking is probably the most "correct" way to do it. It's quite a bit harder.

E-braking is the bonefied easiest way to do it. Kind of like cheating :)

You do need to practice and get an idea of what happens. There is a nearly unihabited commercial area around a local low traffic airport. I go out there and do a buch of laps. I push it a bit farther each time. Then, I push it until I spin around to see what it feels like to brake the threshold.....Leave it in second at about 30, late apex and punch it....or leave it in third and do a power downshift into second (that's where things can get ugly :D ).

My sled's in need of all new suspension components, but as soon as I get my new Z32 VLSD and rear 11.6 rotors with 2 piston calipers, I should have even more fun (that or the lack of power from the KA is going to get ridiculous!)

-Alex

Originally posted by LONEWOLF
honestly in drag raceing whoever spends the most money wins. not to say that driver skill count for nothing but it plays a major role. but no matter how much skill you have you can't make a 15 sec car a 13 sec car. with skill maybe a high 14 but not a 13 .you could walk into any speed shop now and say, "i want to go 12's how much is it going to cost." with drifting only thing that really matters is a good suspension and a good lsd. power helps but not as much as drag raceing requires. there is formula for drag raceing now. you can walk in the store and say. "i want a 12 sec street car." and the shop will say "how you want you car sir." all motor, nos, or turbo, its like shoping at mcdonalds. now if you can't go 12 it usually not the car problem. its your driveing skills.

I have to say I agree with u totally. If u got the green you'll out run 98% of the people you race. And if you have the cheese you'll have the car to go with it. ( my choice would be an R34 Vspec 2 with 30G's alone under the hood :) ) Thats why drifting is so popular. No matter what car u have u can loose, easily to a smaller less powerful car. We americans need to clearly figure out exactly what they judge when the hold drifting competitions. I know they look at slide, speed, and how much track you use but there has to be more to it. Anyone know?

Originally posted by importnut
I would have to say that powersliding is the most popular method for RWD drifting. I love doing it so much that I would do it in the parking lot of a grocery store if I had enough power :D

Lift throttle oversteer or trail braking is probably the most "correct" way to do it. It's quite a bit harder.

E-braking is the bonefied easiest way to do it. Kind of like cheating :)

You do need to practice and get an idea of what happens. There is a nearly unihabited commercial area around a local low traffic airport. I go out there and do a buch of laps. I push it a bit farther each time. Then, I push it until I spin around to see what it feels like to brake the threshold.....Leave it in second at about 30, late apex and punch it....or leave it in third and do a power downshift into second (that's where things can get ugly :D ).

My sled's in need of all new suspension components, but as soon as I get my new Z32 VLSD and rear 11.6 rotors with 2 piston calipers, I should have even more fun (that or the lack of power from the KA is going to get ridiculous!)

-Alex

Yeah I'm dumping my KA out of my 97 in about 2 and a half months. I have to say that I don't have any complaints about it though ( besides that its not an SR20 ) its been good to me ;) Something that can help alot is for you to extremely adjust your camber. I did it once and it was dream drifting. A somewhat extreme negative camber allows you to get serious grip and this also helps for rain/ wet pavement drifting as well. you'll need ascentric bolts and a JIC ( I think ) suspension kit. I just turned my ascentric bolts ( temporarily of course ) but supposedly its even better with control arms and the whole nine...

as for judgeing the drifts i think we should'nt go that far into the future. lets get the cars and the street presence first. then the competion will come next. we need more people into the sport usa has plenty of open yards, old airports, and maybe mountain pass (theres a lot in ashville north carolina). and they will kill ya!!

Originally posted by LONEWOLF
as for judgeing the drifts i think we should'nt go that far into the future. lets get the cars and the street presence first. then the competion will come next. we need more people into the sport usa has plenty of open yards, old airports, and maybe mountain pass (theres a lot in ashville north carolina). and they will kill ya!!

Yeah your right. But we have to judge something. Or we won't know what we should be working toward. I usually take it easy and try to use alot of road. Thats the most difficult to do I think.
But I have go to buy and older S13 model though. My 97 isn't up for the heavy abuse.:p We seem to be keeping this topic up. Too bad we don't live near each other ;)