Im looking at swapping a det into a 95-98 200sx (US 200sx). Ive been researching prices and im not liking what im finding so far. Altho im overestimating prices where i can to be safe. Do you guys think a good det swap is resonable for 5k. I want to be pushing about 15 pounds, hopefully a little more than 300hp. The only big thing I think im uncertain about is the fuel equipment i will need. I don't know if the stock bluebird det injectors are good for that much hp/boost. And im willing to bet i'll need a new fpr. But here is the list otherwise:

-Engine (Bluebird SSS sr20det)
-FMIC
-New wastegate
-New BOV
-Boost controller (would like electronic)
-Turbo timer
-Transmission work (i hear the gears are weak, don't know exact fix yet)
-New Clutch
-Engine mounts (probably jwt)
-ECU (either programmable or jwt)
-Gauges (boost, a:f, maybe oil pressure?)

This list im sure isn't flawless. Im not sure if im gonna need to bust out with an oil cooler or upgraded fan. The t28 that the car has stock is supposedly good for about 18 pounds. Should be plenty for me. I haven't figured out exactly where i wanna buy all these parts from, so i haven't listed the prices yet. Im also undecied on the ecu. I would like one with some flexibility so if i ever decide to upgrade the turbo or whatever then i could add more fuel. I haven't ever programmed a fuel map before, although in theory i know how to. The jwt would probably be easier. In the end i may go with whichever is a cheaper route, although im not sure how much dyno time it would take me to do the efi programming. Well either way, any parts im forgetting? You guys think i can pull it off with my budget?

5000 is your budget correct? And your goal is 300hp?

F-Max Turbo Kit.

I'm just did a BBDET motor swap into my 97 SE-R. After all is said and done, and for the price I paid for all the stuff I got, I really should have gone with an F-Max kit. I did end up with a clean install which I did myself, an FMIC. Took a few days to sort out the bugs, but now I have it not leaking coolant and idling like my old SR20DE.

The T25 turbo(not t28) on the BBDET is not gonna get you to 300hp. And do you really wanna push more than 1Bar of boost on a T25?

As for fuel equipement needed to get to 300hp.

You'll need:
-higher flowing fuel pump, Walbro or 300ZXTT pump
-larger injectors

One of the particular reasons im looking at the engine swap is actually to keep things simple. The swap is supposedly not too complicated. Everything should bolt in perfectly with a couple of exceptions. And the engine is designed to be turbocharged. I would really like to bolt this thing in, wire it, and never have to worry about it again. Now i know thats unrealistic, but thats the kind of thing im shooting for. There will certainly be some difficulties in the process. But i'm hoping to avoid dealing with all the little difficulties that come with turbo setups on na's. Things like one of those msd boost timing adjusters (can't think of what they're called for some reason... but u know what im talking about). If i do the swap i hopefully won't have to mess with the engine internals at all. I heard the head gaskets go a little above 20 pounds, so hopefully i won't have to deal with that. But theres all kinds of little problems that seem to result from turboing an n/a car, hell look at all the hondas that blow up from people not having every aspect of the turbo covered.

If i do the swap the cams are designed for turbo, the timing is designed for turbo, ive got the low compression stuff, ive got the bigger injectors. All i need are external parts. I remember reading that the turbos on the bluebird det's were t28's but i guess if you have one you would know ;D Musta been some confusion with the gti-r. But i would love to hear more, the fmax site seems kinda crappy, i couldn't get much info from there about the kit. What stage would make the kind of power that im looking for. And would it really be as reliable turboed as an engine that comes turbo from the factory?

Altho now ive gotta throw in a turbo upgrade in my list of stuff as well :( So its looking less and less like this is affordable for me at this point :(

An SR20 is an SR20... The one you would be buying for a swap is the same as the one already in your car, except for the fact it has lower compression, piston oil squirters, strapped with a turbo, and some other things. SAME Engine and hp ratings. Still has cast pistons, and can still blow up. They're rated for about 400-450 hp on the stock bottom end (more towards the 400 I believe).
I think the F-Max Kit stage 1 or 2 would be perfect for you. I believe the stage 1 is good for over 300 hp, and has everything needed for the basic install, no cams, clutch, motor mounts, etc...
I'm personally piecing my kit together from different parts and the total is going to be around $7k with install, and that's with everything possible included.
I'm doing HKS cams, but all you need to do is get some 91 cams to help it a little... With the JWT ECU, the timing is set to 15 (degrees) no matter what.
It's definitely a hard decision to make!! Costly either way you go.

The FMAX stage 1 will not make 300 whp for sure. It still uses the 370CC injectors and stock MAF. Waste of money IMO. yeah, the upgradeability is there, but if you are spending that much money, you might as well fork out for the Cobra MAF and 50 lb MSD's. A guy at the last dyno day made 180 whp with the FMAX stage 1. I'm probably making 230 whp with 8 psi on my T25. Just get the Stage 2 for your 300 whp. The T25 and T28 will not get you to 300 whp. The T3/T4E will with Cobra MAF and 50 lb MSD injectors.

I am working on the $$$$$ aspect of my det swap
You can get the cost down if you wanted but would sacrafice horsepower, stick with the BB DET, FMIC, BOOST CONTROLLER (MANUAL) WWW.BOOSTGAUGES.COM/ CLUTCH, MOTOR MOUNTS, ECU, GAUGES.

Sounds like my setup. Works for me! :)

Terrin, have u had any problems with your tranny at that horsepower? I remember reading that the gears in the 200sx tranny aren't too strong....

Nope. *knock on wood.

huh...what...did somebody mention my name?

am i looking at the wrong website, or is the f-max site just crap? Do i gotta email them to get any real info on the kit or what?

Originally posted by Liquid
am i looking at the wrong website, or is the f-max site just crap? Do i gotta email them to get any real info on the kit or what?

Why yes, yes the site is crap. BUT the products, now that's another story...

i can't find any hp curves, or any other such details, like how much boost the different stages are set for and what not. I guess i'll go try and find an email link.