: Classic vs. 200SX
Toolapcfan 04-24-2002, 11:41 AM I've always liked the look of a B13 over a B14 but the B14 is starting to grow on me. I also have a feeling that when it comes time for me to buy an SE-R that a 200SX is going to be easier to come by than a Classic. (At least in my area) With plans to do a DET swap, brake and suspension upgrades, I am curious if there are differences between the two cars that I should know about before I decide. I apprecaite any input, thanks.
98sr20ve 04-24-2002, 11:55 AM Get the 95-97 for the LSD. Or you can get a used tranny for about 550.
Steve
MaddMatt 04-24-2002, 12:06 PM The B13 has independant rear suspension. For autocross and track schools, it's better than the B14.
Oddly, even though the B14 was slower in stock form, it responds to engine mods a little better than the B13.
kpw97 04-24-2002, 01:00 PM I've been researching this myself, and it's gotten some talk on the mailing list. The deal is the low port has shorter runners. So, even with the slightly poorer flow and decreased cams, the engine puts out similar hp to the high-port. So, with bolt-ons many people experience better improvements on the low-port. Once cams are put in for an equal comparison, the low-port seems to put down around 5 more hp.
In addition, the b15 is actually 50 lbs lighter than the b13. Check it out for urself in the specs. Even though it doesn't have the independant suspension, I'm kinda wishing I had a b14 or at least 94 ser right now myself.:(
MaddMatt 04-24-2002, 02:40 PM In addition, the b15 is actually 50 lbs lighter than the b13.
B13s are commonly weighed at 2460 lbs. You're telling me a B15 200SX weighs 2410???
98sr20ve 04-24-2002, 02:42 PM Originally posted by MaddMatt
B13s are commonly weighed at 2460 lbs. You're telling me a B15 200SX weighs 2410???
B15 200sx. Who makes that?
Steve
MaddMatt 04-24-2002, 03:31 PM B15 200sx. Who makes that?
OK, OK. B15 Sentra. They're still not 2400 lbs. Closer to 2600.
98sr20ve 04-24-2002, 03:38 PM Nissan list the B15 Sentra SE (145hp) at 2670lbs. I have no idea what a 2002 SER weighs.
Steve
ODonHP 04-24-2002, 03:54 PM Originally posted by 98sr20de
Get the 95-97 for the LSD. Or you can get a used tranny for about 550.
Steve
where can I get a tranny for 550?
98sr20ve 04-24-2002, 03:58 PM Originally posted by ODonHP
where can I get a tranny for 550?
I have found them for that price at http://car-part.com/ You will also need the driver side axle.
Steve
NismoNx2000 04-24-2002, 05:06 PM For a tranny, u can also try jgycustoms, hes selling trannies for around 450....
I'm partial to the B13, but I'd take a 200SX SE-R. After a DET swap and suspension and brake mods, it's comparing apples and apples. Seats, wheels, and many engine parts interchange, of course.
Just pick the cleanest, best-maintained car for the money.
97 Black SER 04-24-2002, 05:26 PM Why are we debating this again???:confused:
ODonHP 04-24-2002, 05:43 PM Originally posted by 98sr20de
I have found them for that price at http://car-part.com/ You will also need the driver side axle.
Steve
the driveside axle would still be needed for b13s?
Storm88000 04-24-2002, 05:46 PM HOLY WAR!!! :)
kpw97 04-24-2002, 06:12 PM LOL, I did not try to start a war. I meant b14 weights less, not b15. Simple typo, the numbers are side by side:D
I know for a fact that b14's can weigh in at 2425. It's not speculation, just fact. I'm done. For some reason I kinda enjoy these debates. Something new always seems to come up.
sleeping 91ser 04-24-2002, 06:22 PM Originally posted by 97 Black SER
Why are we debating this again???:confused:
yeah really whats up with that I thought we allready decided that classics are the best.:cool:
Sean
SmoothDaddyFig 04-24-2002, 09:31 PM Originally posted by 97 Black SER
Why are we debating this again???:confused:
Its about that time again. New people, old topics.
Its all good. Just keep on with your business.
jnk5y 04-25-2002, 01:16 AM since ya'll seem to know how much cars weigh maybe you can tell me how much a b12 hatch weighs
Sub_Function 04-25-2002, 03:31 AM honestly I'm just happy to be driven a Nissan with a SR20DE in it... be it a B14- B13, I'm all gravy... Word!
:cool:
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