Are the Pulsar GTiR's are AWD? Which SR20 comes from an AWD vehicle? I'm just wondering if anyone has ever convereted a classic b13 se-r to awd. I know the cost would be enormous, due to all the custom fabrication, and its not something I could/would ever afford, i'm just wondering if its ever been done?

To my knowledge it hasn't been done. I've heard of a couple people that were going to try it. But I think you're more likely to succeed in making an AWD NX2000, or Altima. The chassis are more similar to the overseas models that are AWD.

Originally posted by Matt4Nissan
I think you're more likely to succeed in making an AWD NX2000, or Altima. The chassis are more similar to the overseas models that are AWD.

Is this fact? Just curious. I think that would be cool if it were made possible.

A *lot* of people thought it would be cool for a *long* time now.

This subject comes up every now and then with the poster always wanting to believe its possible.

If it hadn't been done by now, especially with the parts pretty readily available, I guess that tells you how possible it is.

There are a *ton* of issues, and they are doubted and rehashed every time.

Originally posted by jon3k
Are the Pulsar GTiR's are AWD? Which SR20 comes from an AWD vehicle? I'm just wondering if anyone has ever convereted a classic b13 se-r to awd. I know the cost would be enormous, due to all the custom fabrication, and its not something I could/would ever afford, i'm just wondering if its ever been done?

The GTi-Rs width is exactly the same as the 200SX. Converting the B13 to a AWD vehicle is going to be alot harder than converting the B14. The GTi-R is a N14 platform also, which is a different platform than the Classic and harder to convert in my mind.

Another thing would be to fabricate a center channel for the extention of the tranny and the axles. Nevermind the fact that the rear setup has to be almost completley custom. It "can" be done, but to me, its not worth the money or the time.

Ben

Originally posted by GTi-R SR20DET
...It "can" be done, but to me, its not worth the money or the time.

This has been what has been said for more than a few years now.

Altima's would be the "easiest" becuase they alrady have a wider tunnel for the driveshaft to go through. on a sentra you would have to cut and widen the tunnel, that is just for beginners. next you would have to move the gas tank. You know wht, y not just buy an ugly ass 88 sentra wagon 5-speed with AWD and swap everythin over. It would be ugly as hell but incredibly fast and handling would be great. I have wanted to do this but need money. i found the perfect donor car with a near perfect bdy. only problem is it has low miles so the price is high for a donor car. If i had te money i would.

Originally posted by llaprad1

This subject comes up every now and then with the poster always wanting to believe its possible.


its possible, trust me :)
just a matter of how much $$$ you're willing to invest.

I have a '91 Nissan Sunny brochure from Japan in storage. It does show the availability of AWD for the B13 platform. However, none of the '91 Sunnys came with an SR20DE.

Originally posted by GTi-R SR20DET


The GTi-Rs width is exactly the same as the 200SX. Converting the B13 to a AWD vehicle is going to be alot harder than converting the B14. The GTi-R is a N14 platform also, which is a different platform than the Classic and harder to convert in my mind.


Ben,
N14 and B13 are almost identical platforms. Especially the base of the chassis is identical in dimensions and layout.

GTiR is the RNN14 platform and has a modified base which accomodates the AWD paraphernalia. Visually (externally) though, RNN14 is identical to N14.

The 200SX on the other habnd IS a different platform.

Chris

As for the conversion,

yes it has been beaten to death on the forums and NO, it has not been done succesfully.

The reason is that you practically have to modify/adapt the basis of the chassis in order to accomodate the rear wheel drive components and people a righteously apprehensive of modifying structural elements of the chassis.

Back in 1992 when the GTiRs were still racing in Rallies, there were at least 4 GTiR and 4 Sunny GTis (SR20DE FWD) I know of that were heavily involved in our local championship. Although 4 of them (2+2) were sponsored by the Nissan distributor over here and the technical infrastructure, know-how and parts were available, all proposals for a "hybrid" GTi-GTiR were considered to be uneconomical and of questionable merit.

Chris
1992 Sunny 2.0GTi (SR20DE)

There is a guy in my town who took a 93 (i believe) Mitsubishi Mirage. Swapped in a DSM Motor and drivetrain. He had to channel a driveshaft spot and Make his own hump in the rear for the rear-end. It's all custom. This car is simply bad ass. It weighs 2500 pounds or less and it's turbo / awd. His first un-tuned pass in the 1/4 was 11.5

If I had the cash, & GTiR Drive train, I am confident this guy could do the swap. Like I said though, It's money i DON'T HAVE.

hpro123 didn't know there were any greeks on the forum. Nice to see another.

:)

Every now and then one of us pops up!
Take care.

Xristos

I have a whole front clip that came with engine tranny and axles, brakes. Everything but gas tank and driveshaft. It is possible and will be done just a matter of time. me and my brother will do it most likely to a b-13 because independant rear unlike the b-14.

Did the Atessa AWD B13's SR18 have a manual tranny option, and if so, will that tranny bolt up to an SR20? The reason I ask is that I think it'd be smart to swap the entire Atessa drivetrain, than to use part of it with a GTiR tranny, simply because if the gear ratios on the tranny aren't the same as those in the rear transaxle, you're going to have problems. Anyone know where a guy can get detailed info on the Atessa? I'd be more than up for swapping it onto my car if I knew that the tranny would bolt up and if I knew where to get the parts from.