: Engine Rebuilding?
ringgold 05-25-2002, 04:19 PM In September I plan on rebuilding my SR20. I dont want some all out race engine. I was thinking of using the stock rods but using the factory 10:1 pistons some Toda cams maybe port and polish the head and just replace alot of the stock parts in the engine with new stock parts. Does anyone have any suggestions I dont want to spend a huge amount of money well I cant Im in the Air Force so spending alot of money is out of the question. Plus the new wife probably will not agree with that either hahaha.TIA
ringgold 05-26-2002, 01:26 AM No one wants to help me rebuild my engine? hahaha
CanadianG 05-26-2002, 01:49 AM Im in the same spot bro:rolleyes: I wanna do mine this summer
ringgold 05-26-2002, 03:36 AM Im still new to the SE-R I have been with the Honda camp for awhile but I recnetly sold my H car to my best friend and got an SE-R. Does JWT have a ecu program for the Toda cams or will I have to find it somewhere else. I have and Apex SAFC in my SE-R now but really have no clue where to start tuning with it. Ill eventually learn about these cars. I know that I really like this car better than my Honda I do beleive. I did have nitrous on my Honda I really liked it I out ran a few Mustangs with it that was great. I would like to have it on the SE-R but I want to rebuild the engine first. So I know someone out there has some advice for me.
james vick 05-26-2002, 10:03 AM Go with the OEM nissan parts. They are hard to beat as far as quality go's. You should do a compression and leak down test on the motor. Alot of these motor's go 200k miles with no problem. Hell mine still checks good with 169k on it. Hope this helps.
ringgold 05-26-2002, 06:41 PM Well I just want to rebuild the engine so I dont have to worry about it in the future. Kinda like preventive maintenance if you know what Im saying.
Originally posted by ringgold
Does JWT have a ecu program for the Toda cams or will I have to find it somewhere else.
JWT doesn't make programs for other people's products.
Originally posted by ringgold
I have and Apex SAFC in my SE-R now but really have no clue where to start tuning with it.
Throw it away. Well, that's not a good idea.... Sell it.
The Nissan ECU has a learning capability where it is always trying to optimize the engine's performance (within certain limits of the program). The ECU and the SAFC fight each other for control.
Originally posted by ringgold
So I know someone out there has some advice for me.
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ringgold 05-27-2002, 03:55 PM Ok so JWT doesnt make an ecu program for the Toda cams but will one of his programs work well with these cams. If he doesnt who should I get to reprogram the ecu? The SAFC that I have installed on the car now was from my Honda. So it is a waste of time to try to tune any with this thing huh? It doesnt have any beneficial tuning characteristics for the SR20? Has anyone else in here experimented with and AFC if so what was your results?
Da91NX 05-27-2002, 04:05 PM Just don't get Toda. JWT makes cams that have many different levels for the 2.0 and can all be programed in the ECU. A good place to start is through JWT. They know the 2.0 inside and out and will be the best help you can get.
ringgold 05-27-2002, 04:09 PM So I shouldnt get the Toda cams. I know they worked really well on the Honda's but then again this is not a Honda I have now. Arent the JWT cams kinda expensive. Im not sure I know the Todas are like $280 a piece I think.
Da91NX 05-27-2002, 04:34 PM JWT are much greater in terms of quality and power wise. For that they also cost more but you can get cams that are not going have you lose any power down low, unlike Toda who i believe just regring stock cams. JWT grind brand new uncut Nissan cams. JWT and JUN are probably the best cams you can get. If you advertise that you want to buy som JWT cams in the for sale section someone may hook you up with some slightly used cams for a few bills.
Originally posted by ringgold
So I shouldnt get the Toda cams. I know they worked really well on the Honda's but then again this is not a Honda I have now. Arent the JWT cams kinda expensive. Im not sure I know the Todas are like $280 a piece I think.
Last I knew JWT cams were $550 a set. Cheaper that Toads and they will make more power all over the rev range. It's really hard to beat JWT products in an open competition, let alone for the money.
Originally posted by ringgold
Ok so JWT doesnt make an ecu program for the Toda cams but will one of his programs work well with these cams. If he doesnt who should I get to reprogram the ecu?
Your only other choice is JUN. Double the price of JWT.
Originally posted by ringgold
The SAFC that I have installed on the car now was from my Honda. So it is a waste of time to try to tune any with this thing huh? It doesnt have any beneficial tuning characteristics for the SR20? Has anyone else in here experimented with and AFC if so what was your results?
I think you will find it to be an unsatisfying experience from what I've read posted by those who have tried it. There have been people who claimed some success, but they eventually scrapped it in favor of a JWT ECU for the reasons I mentioned.
cossieturbo 05-28-2002, 12:51 AM Well bloke, ever thought of just getting an imported JDM SR20DE 10:1 engine with 30,000 miles or less? They run about $650.00 and you just have to drop them in and plug all the harness bits in. You could easily add cams and such to it and it would be easy to find one with a high port head. They may have all been high ports, but I am not sure about that. As cams go... JWT is really your best bet all around. After looking over the Sport Compact shake down of the mild SR20DE cams, I myself would either choose the Tomei cams with the UPRD ECU upgrade or the JWT S3 with the JWT ECU. There are of course other JWT cams, such as the S4 and the C series (requires stronger springs), but you said you don't want a race motor. If you want to keep as much of the stock idle feel and yet still want a good power boost, just stick with the Tomeis or JWT S3. There are a million opinions out there, so just do a little research and if you want a copy of the cams article then e-mail me. celica_gt4@bellsouth.net
I know that the S3 if a very nice balance for street use.
Cossie
ringgold 05-28-2002, 03:20 PM Where can i get an engine swap for $650.00? That is alot easier than trying to rebuild the stock engine. Like I said before Im from the Honda camp nothing seemed like it came for that cheap.
RallyKid 05-28-2002, 03:37 PM As we were discussing here:
http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18884
You can get an engine for way less than $650 if you shop around.
The swap should be painless and you can do it yourself if you are capable of doing a rebuild.
Expect a shop to do it for around $500.
This is definitely the way to go over a rebuild unless you really want to learn about the engine and crack it open yourself.
that should give you 10-20 horsepower if you get the 10:1 motor.
The price we found for the engine is less than one of the Toda cams.
--Eric
Cjburn 05-28-2002, 03:59 PM Toda's are NOT regrinds. They're ground off of new billets. www.todaracing.com
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