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Buckwilly
06-10-2002, 02:45 PM
Me and my friend were trying to adjust my timing and we could not see or fing the hash marks for the adjustment. IS it because of the pulleys or are they there and we are just blind? I saw the needle unit but could not see anything else. Any help would be great...thanks.

Da91NX
06-10-2002, 03:17 PM
think it because they are the old pulleys. They only have the mark at 0* i believe. That is what i have gathered so far. I was told to call UR and ask them about the timing marks. Can some one else chime in here and fill in the blanks.

Buckwilly
06-10-2002, 03:23 PM
The first modded se-r EVER!!!!

man, these parts have been on for awhile..well, at least I know they last. Ic ouldnt find anything either Ryan.

NonSER
06-10-2002, 03:25 PM
. :)

james vick
06-10-2002, 04:05 PM
The older pulleys had a mark at TDC. That's it you have to have a dial back timing light for that. I know I have some;)

Da91NX
06-10-2002, 04:28 PM
how much is a dial back timing light usually go for. I have a normal timing light, but that wont help here.

purist
09-26-2002, 01:07 PM
I have the old pulley too. I can find the white mark, but I don't knwo what to do with it. Where should it be placed to achieve 15 degrees? Can someone explain the timing light situation too?

purist
09-26-2002, 01:29 PM
I have the old pulley too. I can find the white mark, but I don't knwo what to do with it. Where should it be placed to achieve 15 degrees? Can someone explain the timing light situation too?

purist
09-26-2002, 02:17 PM
OK. I may have the solution! I just talked with UR about the problem of having only one mark. After he gave it some comparison and thought, he said the mark is at 3 degrees.

We considered this for a bit and decided that the timing has to be set like this:

Get a timing light that you can adjust. Set it to zero and move the white mark directly under the pin. Now you are at 3 degrees advancement.

Now set the light to 12. Move the mark under the pin again. Now you are at 15 degrees advancement. If you want 17 degrees then you are going to have to set the light to 14. (12 +3 =15 and 14 +3 = 17).

Anyone want to debunk this? Otherwise I am going to try it as soon as I get my hands on an adjustable light.

Buckwilly
09-26-2002, 02:51 PM
So I dont need the older style timing light? I can just use a regular timing light? I just dont want to buy the wrong one. And I would rather have the never style light. At least that was what I remember correctly...

AaroNX
09-26-2002, 04:44 PM
Its a good thing mine has all 6. I am pretty sure I would mess something up trying to do all that.;)

purist
09-26-2002, 09:13 PM
According to the guy at UR, no. You can use a regular light as per my instructions. However, I am noticing that the mark may actually be another number, higher than 3 degrees. I will call back tomorrow and see for sure.

Can anyone tell me what the highest timing is that our cars can be set at? Can it go passed 25 degrees? The reason I ask is because I seem to be hitting the limit of travel that the distributor will go (which would be the highest possible triming that our cars can be at) but I am supposedly at 15 degrees. That is why I think the mark on the old pulley must be higher than 3 degrees. Maybe its more like ten degrees. But I don't know for sure.

It seems that the only way to know for sure is to mark TDC by removing the spark plug and going through that entire process with the long screw driver. Damn, what a mess. Maybe I'll try that one now. I've exhausted every other possible solution it seems.

Also, does anyone know what role the TPS plays in the timing? If the TPS is set too high or low, would that have an affect on you timing reading in timing lock mode?

Pretty White
09-26-2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by purist
OK. I may have the solution! I just talked with UR about the problem of having only one mark. After he gave it some comparison and thought, he said the mark is at 3 degrees.

We considered this for a bit and decided that the timing has to be set like this:

Get a timing light that you can adjust. Set it to zero and move the white mark directly under the pin. Now you are at 3 degrees advancement.

Now set the light to 12. Move the mark under the pin again. Now you are at 15 degrees advancement. If you want 17 degrees then you are going to have to set the light to 14. (12 +3 =15 and 14 +3 = 17).

Anyone want to debunk this? Otherwise I am going to try it as soon as I get my hands on an adjustable light.

Believe what you want to believe. I have been to Unorthodox and they were not so helpul with my pulley set. I had to find TDC myself and measure from there. Everyone was convinced that the pulleys were -5,0,5,10,15,20 when in fact that it started at 0,5,10,15,20,25. This was first discoverd when Ray K retarded my distributer and the car ran smoother on the dyno and otherwise.
If this was a phone conversation I doubt that w/o them having the pulley in front of them they can tell you where TDC is.

Pretty White
09-26-2002, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by purist
It seems that the only way to know for sure is to mark TDC by removing the spark plug and going through that entire process with the long screw driver. Damn, what a mess. Maybe I'll try that one now. I've exhausted every other possible solution it seems.



Yup!:rolleyes:

Buckwilly
09-26-2002, 10:45 PM
*** this.
I am just getting the jwt ecu and forget about it.

purist
09-27-2002, 02:45 AM
Well, you are forgeting that my pulley is much older than yours is. Mine, acording to Joe at UR is "ancient"... one of the first ones they made. I have ONE mark. This is mine and buckwilly's problem. we dont have the convenience of many timing marks. I wish my problem was that I had to pick between two schools of thought. As it is, there are no schools of thought. Haha. Sucks for us!

I think the mark may be ten and not three for those of you in single timing mark land. Not sure though. Can someone tell me what the highest timing our cars can be set to is? If I know this, then I will know the exact value of the timing mark (singular).

purist
09-27-2002, 02:55 AM
how do you get the crank to turn over so that you can find TDC with the screwdriver in plug one trick? I would gladly do this if I could figure out how to move it slowly and without turning the key.

AaroNX
09-27-2002, 10:56 AM
You will have to use a ratchet and socket to turn the crank pulley. Anyone know the size?

purist
09-27-2002, 12:30 PM
So, turn the but as if I were tightening it? Only it shouldn't be tightening, but turning the crank. I suppose I need to leave it in neutral as well. These all seem like "duh" questions, but I thought I'd ask just in case. Maybe it will help the next guy.

AaroNX
09-27-2002, 05:32 PM
Yep and it will help to remove all of the spark plugs as well, do to the compression.