: Bluebird ECU vs. JWT ECU
number2jcb 06-12-2002, 11:16 AM Anybody have any pro's and con's? I am not going turbo, just looking for some extra power (who isn't)...
Anybody have dyno comparison? I do not know anything about the bluebird.
This is for my SE-R classic.
NonSER 06-12-2002, 11:42 AM Well #1 thing you should know about BB is that it's turboed and isn't produced in US. Thus ECU won't work.
You need to make sure if you have a manual TPS that you get a Bluebird ECU made for a manual TPS car. Otherwise it's like sticking an auto ECU in your manual car since the auto and manaul TPSs are different. I believe Andreas Miko said the color of the label or something on the DET ECU tells you if it's from a manual or auto Bluebird. Otherwise the only downside is the speed limiter, of which I just posted a question to Andreas regarding this in the turbo forum.
Oh, and a DET ECU will only work in OBDI cars (91-94) so you B14 owners are outta luck in terms of trying to use a DET ECU. Unless some of the later DET ECUs from Japan are OBDII... we are seeing Avenir and later Bluebird DETs come over, so I maybe the ECUs too? Andreas?
Doh- you are looking for extra power NA? No way :D LOL. If you want to throw a T25 on your car, then yes, a DET ECU is a good alternative to using a JWT ECU, but not for NA. LOL :)
92SE-R 06-12-2002, 01:29 PM After sitting in a Bluebird ECU equipped DET, I am impressed. I take back everything I ever said about using this ECU. In fact, I just heard from a guy I know that they did a back to back comparison of the JWT ECU and the Bluebird ECU, and the Bluebird ECU made 8 more hp at the wheels. I still have to see the dyno chart, but he felt it was useless to post that here since everyone loves JWT here.
The Bluebird ECU gets a thumbs up from me.
Terrin- does that DET ECU equipped car have a speed limiter?
92SE-R 06-12-2002, 02:30 PM 115 mph indicated.
CanadianG 06-12-2002, 03:29 PM Originally posted by NonSER
Well #1 thing you should know about BB is that it's turboed and isn't produced in US. Thus ECU won't work.
I may not know everything but what you just said makes absolutely NO SENSE!
BlueBird DET engine has a turbo correct! So if you are using the computer designed for a turbo engine why does it matter where it was produced? Nissan is not a North American car!
My $0.02
He was saying what he knew. The rest of the thread proved him wrong. He tried his best. He didn't come back all mean. There was no reason for your post since his post has obviously been proved wrong. If you don't have anything good to say...
skyliner 06-12-2002, 03:48 PM Edit
CanadianG 06-12-2002, 03:49 PM My bad, thanx for correcting me. My G/F has shocked me today in how unusual people's logic works. Im just in a strange mood I guess. Well thanx for calming me down. I did edit my post ***'
I was gonna ask him "Since our cars are from Asia if that means that we cant use them in North America" but I'm really not trying to be a prick!
charlie2020 06-12-2002, 04:21 PM Originally posted by 92SE-R
After sitting in a Bluebird ECU equipped DET, I am impressed. I take back everything I ever said about using this ECU. In fact, I just heard from a guy I know that they did a back to back comparison of the JWT ECU and the Bluebird ECU, and the Bluebird ECU made 8 more hp at the wheels. I still have to see the dyno chart, but he felt it was useless to post that here since everyone loves JWT here.
The Bluebird ECU gets a thumbs up from me.
Hell yeah me to for about $200 shit you can't go wrong it was made for damn engine in the first damn place *#!^ JWT ECU you ain't better than factory ECU, whacha you thinkin bout $600 my ass you better ask somebody.
charlie2020 06-12-2002, 04:24 PM Originally posted by CanadianG
I may not know everything but what you just said makes absolutely NO SENSE!
BlueBird DET engine has a turbo correct! So if you are using the computer designed for a turbo engine why does it matter where it was produced? Nissan is not a North American car!
My $0.02
Don't worry bro he don't know anything he's probably a JWT fan.
Come on now, what did I just tell CanadianG? BE NICE. Geeze. Are we at war here or something?
eric96ser 06-12-2002, 04:49 PM Originally posted by CanadianG
I may not know everything but what you just said makes absolutely NO SENSE!
BlueBird DET engine has a turbo correct! So if you are using the computer designed for a turbo engine why does it matter where it was produced? Nissan is not a North American car!
My $0.02
The BB doesn't use the same emissions sensors as the Sentra/200 use. In some cases, the Sentra has sensors that the BB doesn't have or vise versa.
Originally posted by charlie2020 Hell yeah me to for about $200 shit you can't go wrong it was made for damn engine in the first damn place *#!^ JWT ECU you ain't better than factory ECU, whacha you thinkin bout $600 my ass you better ask somebody.
Don't worry bro he don't know anything he's probably a JWT fan.
Please show me a better plug and play ECU for less money, and that doesn't require dyno tuning. I'm not sure about you, but it only takes me 10 minutes max to swap my JWT ECU in.
92SE-R 06-12-2002, 04:56 PM Charlie, you sound REAL intelligent. For a stock Bluebird, the stock Bluebird ECU is great. For anything custom, JWT ist he way to go.
skyliner 06-12-2002, 05:01 PM Edit
charlie2020 06-12-2002, 05:15 PM Originally posted by eric96ser
The BB doesn't use the same emissions sensors as the Sentra/200 use. In some cases, the Sentra has sensors that the BB doesn't have or vise versa.
Please show me a better plug and play ECU for less money, and that doesn't require dyno tuning. I'm not sure about you, but it only takes me 10 minutes max to swap my JWT ECU in.
To clear it up i'm talking OBD1 highport.
The BB doesn't have emmissions, no EGR, BPT, AIV, EGT.....ok the water temp sensor and O2 sensor are different my bad. You don't need to change the sensor that tells the ECU if you are over heating if you are useing a BB sensor and comp, the only that you need to change is the one that sends the signal to water temp guage on your instrument cluster because it calibrated different in Japan if you don't you'll probably think you are over heating. As far as O2 use the BB O2 on a BB comp and you'll be fine.
How about a SAFC and your free stock comp and a multimeter its really not that difficult.
charlie2020 06-12-2002, 05:26 PM Originally posted by 92SE-R
Charlie, you sound REAL intelligent. For a stock Bluebird, the stock Bluebird ECU is great. For anything custom, JWT ist he way to go.
A 92SE-R don't get all BUTT HURT its all good. I wasn't talking about anything custom and if I was I would say buy a SAFC. Only take this serious if your were being a REAL smart ass.
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