I'm planning on doing this to my car once I get the money ready to get my sound system done, but I want to know if i'm in over my head.

I have a few questions;
1. Has anyone done this to there car?
2. How much weight was saved?
3. How does the sound compared (tar to non tar)?
4. How should I go about doing this?

Thanks alot for any info in advance.:)

Get some dry ice and freeze the tar. When it is frozen you can chip and sometimes pull the tar away. Repeat the process until done. It saves around 10-20 lbs. Your car will be a bit louder, but you can learn to live with it. I think SE-R.net has a link, or a procedure.
BTW. if you are doing a stereo, why take all this out? Ever hear of resonance, or vibrations? If you want a system, leave the stuff in and get more. I.e. Dynomat

Originally posted by sr20ser

BTW. if you are doing a stereo, why take all this out? Ever hear of resonance, or vibrations? If you want a system, leave the stuff in and get more. I.e. Dynomat

It's not gonna be a bare floor board. I'm planning on leaving the carpet in for the civilized look. I'm gonna replacing the factory speakers and get a removeable subwoffer for the trunk. This isn't anytime soon (proably around sept. - oct.).

As for resonance and vibration, I don't think it will be much a problem. My girlfriends cousin has a 00 type R with 2 12" subs in the trunk and his car sounds pretty good. The type R doesn't come with any sound proofing tar/ fuzz/ cardboard, just carpet.

Try just pulling on it, espcialy if you have a classic or decently old b14. Eric did like all but the drivers side floor under the peddles by doing nothing but pulling on it. He even said the parts under the rear seat came up in almost one complete section. The tougher stuff id think about dry ice, or maybe just a sturdy scraper made of like wood or something so you dont scratch the metal.

I was able to remove most of the sound deadening in my racecar with just a putty knife and a lot of elbow grease. Haven't gotten to the tar yet, but I'm going to try dry ice for that.

Where do you buy dry ice? It's easy:

http://www.dryiceinfo.com/where.htm

use a heat gun and some kind of putty knife and screwdriver and a lot of elbow grease. the heat gun makes things a lot easier, i dont know how slowser did it with only a putty knife. as for weight savings, it was well over 35 pounds. i kept all the tar in a garbage bag but i didnt have a scale at the time, but i estimate well over 35 pounds, maybe even 50. As for the sound system, i definately dont recommend doing this because everything will resonate(even with the carpet like how my car is), not to mention the really really loud road noise. I can barely hear my radio at highway speeds, even if the volume is set to a somewhat loud position.

Here is a list of what I removed and what it weighed all together.

All tar from the trunk to the firewall
All padding under the carpet
All padding behind the inside panels ( doors, side panels, a, b,and c pillar panels)
rear speakers
middle seat belt
all carpet in the trunk
cardboard that covers the back of the rear seat
half of the fasteners that attach the interior panels
rear interior brace behind the rear seat

A grand total of 87 pounds.
This on a 92 classic.

Originally posted by shoe
use a heat gun and some kind of putty knife and screwdriver and a lot of elbow grease.

Same here with my 944.

I used 3M adhesive remover from an auto parts store to remove the residue. Don't get the stuff from a home store.

Do any of you guys use these cars as daily drivers? Or if you don't, do you think the sound is bare-able (sp?). If I can save 50lb+ then I think I can stand a little more rattle than normal.

I have another question also. I notice that most people who have done this are N/A, but i'll be using a det. Do you think that the rattle will be worste than on a N/A car? This car will be running a 3" exhaust (with 21" resinator and cat).

I use my 92 as a daily driver. Not much difference IMO. At idle it resonates a little more than with the tar and sound deadning, but it isn't bad. At speed you can't really tell on my car.

my car is a daily driver as well. if you dont mind the noise and creeks, go for it.

sheesh! all these people talking about using elbow grease... Do the dry ice. I've done/helped do several se-r cup cars with the dry ice, and it is super easy and clean. no gooey scraping. tips:

we typically use about 30 lbs (i think) to do a whole car. buy it right before you are gonna use it. When you are ready, chisel off a chunk, wrap it in an old towel, put it on the floor, and pound it up with a sledge hammer. Open up the towel and you've got a pile of fine snow. pour it on a sheet of tar, spread it out with a leather-gloved hand (about 1/2" deep). Keep any chunks you aren't using in the ice-chest. Now stand around for a minute and listen to the loud popping and crackling noised coming from your floor. Usually from here, I just get a small hammer and screwdriver and just hammer on it and it usually just breaks up into a bunch of pieces (wear safety glasses!) . scoop out tar pieces and move residual snow to the next spot and make more as needed. When you are done, just go back with a shop-vac and get the small stuff. There are a few good pics of the process on Jim Howard's car on my website : www.monkey-r.com

Good luck!

andris

With an air chisel, that shit will FLY out of the car.

Air tools own joo.

I left my car in the driveway with the windows up on a very hot day last week. I don't know what prompted me to try it but I pulled on the thick black crap found under the rear seat on the drivers side and it came off in one big sheet. I tried to do the same on the passenger side and it wouldn't budge. I'll be spending this weekend working on weight reduction and plan to use dry ice.

I stripped my NX rally car in January - it was cold enough that all the tar just chipped out. Not only is it louder - but if you also remove some of the seam sealant, it's wetter...

My car has no interior, stock dash, 2 Cobra Imola IIs, full roll cage, 1 spare wheel, small tool box bolted into the back - it weighs 2552lbs with no occupants and 1/4 tank of gas.

Robin

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sr20 B12
[B]Do any of you guys use these cars as daily drivers? Or if you don't, do you think the sound is bare-able (sp?).

bearable...but ur spelling fits better since we are talking about stripping the cars lol

I just got done scraping mine. Took about 6-7hrs combined time, doing it the hard way (hammer, screwdriver, putty knife, 90deg outside). Haven't drove it much, yet, but I estimate a good 40lbs on my car.

Question: What is that plastic junk next to the firewall, that just flakes into a thousand pieces when you touch it? I mean, it's all gone now, but what is it?

10-20 lbs. of dry ice will remove all sound deadening. That worked best for me. Remove the plate from under the steering column, remove the plate from behind the glove box also. You can cut the plate from behind the glove box so that you can keep the glove box stable. The backing on the interior carpet is the majority of the weight to the carpet. So you can keep your carpet, just tear the padding off. Ditch everything in your trunk, stick your battery there instead. If your cruising solo, unbolt the passenger seat. Makes a good Gran Turismo 3 chair.