: what motor to use
lilcoope7 07-31-2007, 05:12 PM i just bought a 91 240sx and i own a 89 supra
can u tell em which car u think is better and y
and also what motor should i run in my 240 i dont understand y everyone is downgrading on engine size just to have it turboed
why dont people build the 2.4 and turbo that
and a sweet ground kit for this thing or are the conversions easy?
please reply want this car running in a couple of weeks so please tell me what ground kit and which motor and what i will need
thanks also if anyone in the IL tell me where
nsusammyeb 07-31-2007, 05:16 PM is the supra turbo? If it is of course it's gonna be the better choice V6 turbo is always better than having to swap motors and still only have the 2 liter turbo. And i mean both cars are about the same size.
McCoy 07-31-2007, 05:19 PM Moving this to the "new member" section...
I don't even know where to start... actually, you might want to start at Zilvia.net. I think you'll get all your answers there, I gaurantee all that your going to find here is people telling you to "search" and "what, do you want to be spoon feed information" on here ;)
ETTInnov03 07-31-2007, 07:21 PM is the supra turbo? If it is of course it's gonna be the better choice V6 turbo...
MKIII Supra's utilize 3.0L I-6 engines.
They came turbocharged and N/A, which is yours?
The are many reasons why people switch to the SR(2.0) over the KA (2.4) any many reasons why people stay and turbo the KA but I won't answer those here. They are two different beasts, each with a different purpose and capability, but I will be kind enough to point you in the right direction for some research. :)
Nissan 240SX
NicoClub (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum/44)
KA-T.org (http://www.KA-T.org)
Zilvia (http://www.zilvia.net)
Fresh Alloy (http://www.freshalloy.com)
Toyota Supra
SupraMania (http://www.supramania.com)
Toyota Supra Forums (http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums)
MKIII Supra (http://www.mkiiisupra.net)
It comes down to what you want, do your research and find out what the strengths are for both cars as well as thier weaknesses and decide which is right for you. I've owned a SR-swapped 240sx and my best friend has a MKIII. My one suggestion is that you don't go to either of those forums with a post like you just made, you won't get anything helpful.
lilcoope7 07-31-2007, 11:39 PM i care m ore about what to swap into my 240 then my supra yea i know the supra will blow it away i just want to know the best motor to put in my 240
should i rebuild the 2.4 and turbo that or go to a differrant motor i heard there was some sort of vtec type thing
can i fit the skyline motor
i dont want to mess up and put 13000 in the wrong motor
Sneakers O'Toole 08-01-2007, 12:25 AM http://i18.tinypic.com/4utm4qg.jpg
VTEC, turbo, and all type of ill shiznit!!!
syedthered 08-01-2007, 02:17 AM read up on the strengthening of the engine of the ka24de it is rarely done compared to the more popular sr20det swap, but will probably be cheaper in the long run, once you rebuild your engine with all sorts of stronger internals and parts, you will probably have a much better understanding and knowledge of the KA(probably more appreciation, too), then if for say you went straight for the s20de or the sr20det, plus comon 2.4L to 2.0,, so read up on it is my best suggestion, weigh your options, I'm sure thats the response you will get more often that not.
lilcoope7 08-01-2007, 04:04 PM ok can people send me some bodykit pics that would look sweet are there conversions and are they easy to do
i am mmostly interested in widebody but any thign that looks sweet
ETTInnov03 08-01-2007, 04:10 PM i care m ore about what to swap into my 240 then my supra yea i know the supra will blow it away i just want to know the best motor to put in my 240
You would be surprised how slow a stock MKIII supra is, but you'll find out if you swap your 240.
All the body kits are right here in one convenient database: Body kits Gallery (http://www.google.com)
Once you get there, type 240sx body kits, or dope-ass widebody....that should return something
Sneakers O'Toole 08-01-2007, 04:11 PM Erebuni FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!
coryb13ser 08-01-2007, 11:27 PM is the supra turbo? If it is of course it's gonna be the better choice V6 turbo is always better than having to swap motors and still only have the 2 liter turbo. And i mean both cars are about the same size.
wow a supra with a v6 :eek2:
lilcoope7 08-02-2007, 12:10 AM ya idk if i should take advice from those that think that a supra has a v6
if it was a v6 it would have as much torque as it does its naturally balanced
inline six 3.0 - 210
turbo ~~235 not sure but thats what the turbo info says it has
TommyD241 08-02-2007, 09:09 PM Since you want the car to be fuctional within a couple of weeks I'd say turbo the KA. But even then, I seriously doubt that you could source the parts and have a running turbo'ed 240sx within a couple of weeks, especially with a sr20det.
As for the body kit.... who cares? See if you can get the go before you get the show. Otherwise, you will only acheive ricer status and get even more flamed by us sr20 boys.
gEE805 08-02-2007, 09:14 PM ga16 is the way to go lol...its bigger then that motor sneaker o toole :D put up lol
naw ka vs sr they both have ups and down man....guess its more of a personal perference
SuperblackZ 08-02-2007, 10:24 PM Since you want the car to be fuctional within a couple of weeks I'd say turbo the KA. But even then, I seriously doubt that you could source the parts and have a running turbo'ed 240sx within a couple of weeks, especially with a sr20det.
As for the body kit.... who cares? See if you can get the go before you get the show. Otherwise, you will only acheive ricer status and get even more flamed by us sr20 boys.
Turbonetics makes a complete kit for the KA for the stock internals, but it's expensive and what you end up with isn't really that exciting compared to what you could do. First, cast iron block and heavy. Parts are much harder to come by for tuning a KA. The relatively long stroke of the KA24DE makes for great torque but two big issues w/o doing some signficant mods inside -
1) Power band stock is all between about 3k rpm to 4.5k rpm (check out some dynos) - the motor does not continue to make more power past about 4.5-5k rpm's, despite a 6500 or so redline.
2) It's nothing like an SR20 in terms of rev-happiness. Despite being a fairly high CR engine (9.5 or higher) w/o cam changes and ECU flash or replacement, you just don't begin to get the performance in the KA.
Best I have seen with a complete internal FI-inspired rebuilt KA is still less than 300 whp. Compare that to what you can find with SR20DET's and some effort, it's a no-brainer.
I do have a '95 Altima with a KA24DE with the usual bolt-ons and suspension mods, I like the car but it's not RWD, it's heavier than a '91 240, and due to the differences in how the swap works in a 240, the U13 Altima would be a real pain in the neck to put an SR20 into - and then it would still be slower than my '91 B13. I get some power gains with I/H/E and better handling, but really I keep it because I'm the original owner, it runs great and handles well, and has a good amount of room being a 4-door. No point in selling it, I still get good use out of it.
If I had a 240, I'd swap the motor out for an SR20DET, no brainer there.
As for body kits, well...
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/avatars/98gle-2.gif
SuperblackZ 08-02-2007, 10:27 PM ga16 is the way to go lol...its bigger then that motor sneaker o toole :D put up lol
naw ka vs sr they both have ups and down man....guess its more of a personal perference
Yes, so true. I solved that with getting one of each. There are some things I do like about the stock+bolt-on's KA compared to the SR20 but as a tuner project, no comparison.
Then I hedged my bets with a VQ35DE first in my 350Z (sold) then now in my V35.
I figure I'm covered now :D
coryb13ser 08-02-2007, 11:23 PM ya idk if i should take advice from those that think that a supra has a v6
if it was a v6 it would have as much torque as it does its naturally balanced
inline six 3.0 - 210
turbo ~~235 not sure but thats what the turbo info says it has
sorry idk what your talking about, v6 vs straigh 6 will not change the tq
ETTInnov03 08-02-2007, 11:42 PM Inline 6's are known for thier torque output, more so than the V6's. I mean it's not a V8 vs V6 difference, but the inline 6 does a better job of putting down torque.
TommyD241 08-02-2007, 11:43 PM Well, that's true. I forgot about the turbonetics kit for the KA motor. That would be one way to boost a 240sx within a couple of weeks, depending on how long it would take for them to ship the kit out to you. If you are willing to throw down $2500 to $3500 to turbo a KA.
Sneakers O'Toole 08-03-2007, 12:28 AM Inline 6's are known for thier torque output, more so than the V6's. I mean it's not a V8 vs V6 difference, but the inline 6 does a better job of putting down torque.
And why is that? You are right to some extent but care to elaborate? What known factor makes torque?
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