07-15-2002, 04:32 AM
whats the difference in these cams..
c3, s1 s3 and what else is there.. i want something that is going to work for me through out the powerband.. hehe i should be getting an ser pretty soon and a classic at that.. that damn fogey.. who wrecked my last one is lucky i didnt pop him one
07-15-2002, 09:37 AM
C3= Race cams
S1= Not available anymore cams
S3= Great daily driver cams
07-15-2002, 11:06 AM
my friend do a search here and on www.se-r.net
There are s3, s4, c-series, toda, hks, jun
If i am starting to confuse you then you shouldn't be considering cams you should look else where for performance mods
ps all will run you from $490 (group deal) to $1000 (c-series)
07-15-2002, 12:58 PM
I would discourage getting the C3 cams. In my experience, I did not like the gains I got from them. I gained about 14 whp from them but lost power all the way up to 6500 rpms over my stock cams. It was about a 10-15 hp loss and 10-15 torque loss.
Naji also experienced the same power losses below 6500. Even though his car is a full race car, having less than 2000 rpm powerband sucks IMO. That is not a powerband. When you shift, your RPMS should drop back into your powerband, not OUT of it.
From what I have heard, Dave Coleman from SCC was also unable to get good consistent numbers from these cams with his project SE-R.
On the other hand, Rob Cadle and Dave Gerry's had incredible results with these cams. Rob only lost power to about 4000 rpms over stock cams and from there, it was all C3 cams. It still peaked around 130 ish torque at the wheels. It dynoed ~176 whp. That is incredible. I believe Dave's former all race car dynoed around 184, which is insane.
For those of you that say my motor sucked, well, I ended up turboing my car at 138,000 miles. My times are in my signature. That run was on 8 psi. I guess if my motor didn't suck then I would be running 11's? :rolleyes:
Also, me and Naji had an issue I will not dwell more into as it is a sore subject with me.
For your purposes Juan, I would highly recommend the S3's. They will work great.
07-16-2002, 03:41 AM
thanks terrin.. so the s3 are the way to go pretty much... for a daily driver.. nice.. i hope something new comes out that will be all over the powerband.. it would be great. even if its just a meesly 10hp torque and 5hp.. hehe, i like torqe.. something thos hondu girls dont have
07-16-2002, 05:22 AM
don't forget about the s4's, they are basically like s3's but a little more top end with a little less low end, but still a great cam, i think i'm gonna get me a set of s4's
those are the scans of the dyno charts from SCC i think, that m2.0de posted awhiles back, i hope he doesn't mind me hosting them as well, they were in a different thread, but it seems a lot of people have been looking for them....