: Different SR setups
nissansr20nx 11-27-2007, 09:24 PM I just wanted everyone to post there different setups and what they were the happiest with. Here goes mine
I have had b13s from 120 whp to 450 whp.
I have had big turbo setups, t28 turbo setups, a VE car that a buddy now has. Multiple fully bolted DE's(S4s, S3s, S2s, Comp cams stage 2s, even tomeis and HKS cams)
For some odd reason after all that a fully bolted nice running DE just makes me happy. I guess because if it blows it is $600 to replace tops. It just seems like a b13 with around 160whp and a great suspension is what i like.
I just wanted to know what you guys thought and what different setups you have gone through!
RabidRaccoon 11-27-2007, 09:52 PM I have gotten to the point of having a fully bolted B13 SR20 (minus cams, but plus a 55shot nitrous) and I love it to death, and she's quick as hell, but I'm not happy with her yet. S4 cams, oversized valves, and high tension springs/retainers are going into her next and after that, turbo. We'll see what finally satisfies my desire for acceleration...
97se-rblown 11-28-2007, 12:08 AM I liked my BB with a t3 t4 was fun with 300+hp but I am now going big boost with it and shooting high. On the other hand my DD b14 with cams I/H/E, cam gears, s&r is fun but I am already need for some speed so I am going to try out a 100 shot program.
Matt
coryb13ser 11-28-2007, 12:21 AM i had a blast with my car when it was stock, but then i did the typical bb t25 set up. that wasnt enough so i went gti-r set up. then went external gate, and 20psi...
now im NA again with my 200+whp and having more fun then ever.
G-Unit91 11-28-2007, 03:45 AM i myself have had a fully bolted w/ nitrous b13,a ve b13 , and 2 turbo b13's and i have to say i had the most fun with the fully bolted and the ve b13's. turbo is awesome but i like the n/a better maybe with a little nitrous lol
ashtonsnissannx 11-28-2007, 08:22 AM me, my first se-r had JDM motor, intake, header, exhaust, s3's, jun flywheel, spec stage 3 clutch and some sticky tires and i loved it at the time. ran 14.2 @97mph all motor and loved beating up on turbod single cam honda's all day long. along with mustang gt's and much more. but it still wasnt enough. i was getting ready to turbo it but plans changed and the car was sold.
now my current se-r. with a jdm motor, intake, safcII, z32 maf and gutted cat, its pretty fast as for what it is, also with the weight reduction. not gutted though. but not this weekend but next a whole bunch of parts are going on this one, which includes s4's, act extreem 4 puck clutch, s13 T-25, s13 tubular manifold, open greddy 3" downpipe, 370cc injectors, fmic, turboxs bov, walbro 255, nismo afpr, brand new axles, and some redline mt90 running a blow thru setup.
im more excited than a 5 year old on christmas. cant wait to do the install. its going to be insane @ 14psi, shooting for 270whp, but after a while im sure im going to want more. haha.
nissansr20nx 11-28-2007, 03:39 PM Yeah it seems everyone likes the small turbo setups and a fully bolted motor.
B14 Se-Rious 11-28-2007, 03:57 PM sc61 setup was so much fun. when the boost hit, it hit really hard.
GT2876RBLUBIRD 11-28-2007, 04:04 PM IMO small turno = efficent = FUN!
but there are trade offs from large turbos to smaller turbos but IMO larger isnt as efficent as smaller
BenFenner 11-28-2007, 04:50 PM but IMO larger isnt as efficent as smaller
There is no room for opinion when it comes to efficiency. It is either more, or less efficient. Larger turbos are more efficient in every way that counts. 'Nuff said.
GT2876RBLUBIRD 11-28-2007, 05:17 PM i totally disagree. to know if a turbo if efficent or inefficent you would have to have specifications of a motor to actually know what would be a better choice.
you cant tell me a motor with 8:5:1 compression and a gt4088r reving to only stock limit would be efficent. you would have a ton of lag
do larger turbos make more power and flow more yes. but is the need for a larger turbo always needed no. which can make having a smaller turbo or larger turbo definitly a matter of opinion considering some people run huge turbos and they arent efficent in a sense they dont have a wide power band which makes large turbos kinda like a on off boost which is completely shitty whereas a smaller turbo would give you a much wider power band ect
ashtonsnissannx 11-28-2007, 05:24 PM agreed, small turbos work really well with our 2.0 i would say the most efficent probably being a t28 or gt28rs being the two best turbos for our engine, i mean unless your just looking to make huge power then yeah dont expect full boost until 4.5-5k. then all you have is 2.5-3k rpms left in the powerband as a t28 hits full boost at 2500 or so.
fro20 11-28-2007, 05:33 PM There is no room for opinion when it comes to efficiency. It is either more, or less efficient. Larger turbos are more efficient in every way that counts. 'Nuff said.
Only when properly sized are big turbos efficient.
I would have to say a gt55 is not efficient on a stock blubird motor.
The trubine and fan may be efficient, but not for that setup.
A turbo is only efficient when in its efficiency islands, other wise it is a waste
XxToKeSxX 11-28-2007, 05:43 PM Rodney... there aint nothing wrong with a fully bolted DE man... I really miss my b13 when it was n/a. It's that sound that a highport makes at redline that can't compare to anything else.
In my opinion, highport DE + mild cam + i/h/e + flywheel + really really good suspension is an awesome budget setup that'll make you smile all day. If money would permit, I would go RR DE w/ springs & retainers and raise the rev limit.
Even though I hate to admit it, my b13 n/a felt healthier than my red car all day even the way it sits now....
ashtonsnissannx 11-28-2007, 05:52 PM tokes i know exactly what your talking about that sound the highport makes right at redline. that deep throat sound. hell i dont even need to look at my tach in any gear to know exactly when to shift at redline. but the need for more power has come and has been my goal. plus i love the way a turbod sr sounds, especially open downpipe.
Vex630 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM My B14's engine has gone through so many changes im surprised its still alive (hopefully i dont jinx it).
Used to have a highport intake cam with prothanes, jwt intake, g20 ecu, and an ssac header (the smaller sized one). I later added a wet 35,50, and 75 shot and then s3's and later on s4's. All this on the stock exhaust and stock suspension. I loved it. So damn fun..... too damn fun.
Needed some money in an emergency and i went back to stock cams and stock header. Now that everything is settled I may go with the "2.5 header and add a wet shot again. This time I have the suspension to go with the power :cool: I dont have plans to add an aftermarket exhaust though.
There is no room for opinion when it comes to efficiency. It is either more, or less efficient. Larger turbos are more efficient in every way that counts. 'Nuff said.
2nd^
you other guys are talking about something else, matching the size of the turbo to the motor
RabidRaccoon 11-29-2007, 12:11 AM I personally can't fathom N/A being more fun than turbo. All that power, and the sound they make... they just make me want to go in my pants!
SER REAL 11-29-2007, 12:56 AM Ideally, my perfect setup would be a well-tuned VE pushin right around 200-210whp, but smogging it here in Cali would be a hassle every 2 yrs.
I loooove forced induction, but not on a FWD car. I have a TT Audi S4 and with Quattro, it really puts the power down. They are a monster on the freeway and straightline, but torque steer sucks major ass. A properly setup NA B13 can post better times than a turbo B13, given a track with less straights.
That said, I'm pretty happy with my fully bolt-on UK 10:1 SR20DE B13, but of course a few more ponies wouldn't hurt. :tongue:
spdracerUT 11-29-2007, 02:29 AM I really think a small turbo setup is the way to go. I started with a POP charger, then header and exhaust, then cams and ecu, then t25 turbo. With the t25 setup, very minimal lag which makes it essentially just feel like a bigger NA motor. With a t25 setup, you only have less power than NA below 1500rpms.
I've let diehard muscle car guys drive my car (400whp NA LT1 camaro with a 150shot on top, vortech blown mustang, Saleen Mustang) and they all absolutely loved driving my car. The boost comes on so smoothly and quickly, it's pretty much just like a bigger motor. The guy in the Saleen even offered a straight trade.
I think people dislike 'boost' when they go too big and get too much lag. Sure, it's great for a track car/drag car, but sucks for a daily driver.
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