i am planning on building a all motor sr20de real soon, i have found the motor a 92 high port, now i have to start buying parts etc etc. i am wanting a 11:1 motor , with aftermarket rods,pistons and c3 cams/springs. is this a good combo? Does anybody know any advice on what piston/rod combos work best. i hear that wiseco is good for nissan but what rods? I want to run a overbored piston for a little more air/fuel in the cyl., and for an intake manifold i want to purcahse the o2 induction intake and throttle body. ANY advice/part #'s from people who have done this or know where i can get a good deal on these parts to complete the motor, i GREATLY appreciated. also about how much power would it possibly be putting out? Thanks ..:D

Is this for a street car or are you building for specific racing class?

If you want a good write up. Do a search with my screen name and subject/topic "Rebuild"

George Roffe who did the documented DET swap on a G20 in SCC created a page where he built his SE-R and dubbed it the beast!

for a street car

he posted when I was writing


heres the thread Topic (http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19008)

You are better off buying a SR20VE motor. It will out run your built motor and idle like a stock SR20VE. VE motor $2700. Built SR20DE rods $600, pistons $650, C3 Cams $550, Vavle springs and retainers $600, port head $800, then you have to pay someone to build it $800 and if you look at what I listed there are a lot of chargers missing.

Andreas Miko

youve got a point andreas. but how long does it take for a ve to get to you?

and what if it breaks? how is avail. of replacement parts, because a direct port kit would be nice on a ve..

Originally posted by Andreas Miko
You are better off buying a SR20VE motor. It will out run your built motor and idle like a stock SR20VE. VE motor $2700. Built SR20DE rods $600, pistons $650, C3 Cams $550, Vavle springs and retainers $600, port head $800, then you have to pay someone to build it $800 and if you look at what I listed there are a lot of chargers missing.

Andreas Miko

Yep. My 11:1 built DE cost $6,000 by the time I added up all the receipts. But, that included the low mass flywheel, clutch, etc., but not header because I already had one. It also included a DPPR stage VI head for $2,200. I was a sucker. I wouldn't do that again. It was cool, but not $2,200 worth of cool.

For a street car you don't need the aftermarket rods. The OEM are forged and quite good. For pistons, 300ZX pistons would be adequate. But like Andreas said, there are a lot of costs not listed. Oh, and I did all the disassembly and assembly myself.

At the time I built my engine only Mike Kojima had really built a killer SR20DE for the street (at least that anyone knew of). I built mine because I wanted a rebuilt engine and it just developed a life of its own. Today I would do as Andreas suggests. I'd love to have another built DE, but I could have two VEs or 3 DETs for what my built DE cost. At the time I built mine, I only knew of one DET install and the JWT ECU for the DET wasn't even available yet. Cheap JDM DEs weren't going to be around for another year or so.

cool thanks for the info guys.. do you know if a direct port n2o kit would be ok on a VE motor, if so , can it take a 100 hp shot ? anybody try it yet ........andreas???any ideas.....thanks

Originally posted by red98se-r
cool thanks for the info guys.. do you know if a direct port n2o kit would be ok on a VE motor, if so , can it take a 100 hp shot ? anybody try it yet ........andreas???any ideas.....thanks

I believe that a VE would have you in the HIGH 13's...or low 14's stock...not sure about nitrous, I might be kinda leary of it though.

~Ryan

Originally posted by Geo91SER
At the time I built my engine only Mike Kojima had really built a killer SR20DE for the street (at least that anyone knew of)...

At the time I built mine, I only knew of one DET install and the JWT ECU for the DET wasn't even available yet. Cheap JDM DEs weren't going to be around for another year or so.

Boy how time flies!!!

very true, i remember that like it was yesterday..btw whats up Sam.. wanna go to the track this wed night?

Originally posted by red98se-r
cool thanks for the info guys.. do you know if a direct port n2o kit would be ok on a VE motor, if so , can it take a 100 hp shot ? anybody try it yet ........andreas???any ideas.....thanks

Andreas and I talked about this. He said the ve already has another 40hp on the de and that adding another 50hp with NOS is about the limit that the rods can take.

why go nitrous when you are getting a VE? stay all motor and get some monster cams. you dont have to worry about idle problems because you have the low rpm lobes and the high rpm lobes. My friend has a civic with a b18c1/b16a2 VTEC motor and JUN cams(along with a million other things) and it screams!! It idles perfectly fine also.

Uhmm, doesn't the Nissan VE use one lobe and just retard or advance the cam's timing?

Unlike Honda's VTEC that has two lobes that are switched at a certain RPM.

There is no low RPM lobe and high RPM lobe right


Originally posted by slipper
you dont have to worry about idle problems because you have the low rpm lobes and the high rpm lobes.

Originally posted by Probedude
Uhmm, doesn't the Nissan VE use one lobe and just retard or advance the cam's timing?

Unlike Honda's VTEC that has two lobes that are switched at a certain RPM.

There is no low RPM lobe and high RPM lobe right




probe, im almost positive that you're thinking of the VTC system like on the spec v, where only cam timing is varied. the NEO-VVL that the VE uses has two lobes similar to VTEC.

Yep, I was thinking of the 'vary the cam timing' system only.


Originally posted by playatx99


probe, im almost positive that you're thinking of the VTC system like on the spec v, where only cam timing is varied. the NEO-VVL that the VE uses has two lobes similar to VTEC.

Originally posted by playatx99


probe, im almost positive that you're thinking of the VTC system like on the spec v, where only cam timing is varied. the NEO-VVL that the VE uses has two lobes similar to VTEC.

Yes but you can activate the Intake and the exhaust separately. I have my intake at 4300rpm and the exhaust at 4700rpm as an example.

VVL which is on the "VE" motor and variable valve timeing exactly like Honda's VTEC and has separate cam lobes for low and high RPM.

VTC which is on the QR25DE and the VG30DETT is exactly like toyota's VVT-i and what it does is adjust the cam phasing.