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irf305
06-07-2008, 08:05 PM
I took the car lastnight for the first time. Car is only running 7 lbs. 'o boost and does not have a LSD. First run launched at 3500 and just rolled the tire ( emphasis on the word tire...:rolleyes: ) shifting at 7000. 2nd run i just dogged it off the line. Amazingly i got no wheel spin even when the boost hit through first. I shifted at 6500 during the second run. 3rd run i dogged it again. But it was getting cooler out and you could tell it was running a lil better. Traction all through 1st when the boost hit, you gotta love the track, cause 1st gear is beyond useless on the street. I shifted at 7000 all gears during the 3rd run. Crossing the traps at about 6500 in 3rd. Temp was 80* with about 70% humidity.

1. vehicle: p10 '95
2. Setup: U12, Stock T25, HKS front mount, 2.5" intercooler pipes, TurboXS BPV, 555 nismos, 3" turbo back, Z32 MAF, Calum ECU programmed for Z32-555's @ 3 bar, Walbro 255, Nismo FPR, ACT XTSS, B&M S.S., AEM Eugo. A/F's are between 10.6-11.5. So it's running a little rich.
3. weight reduction mods: None. Technically weights been added. I weighed it at the track and it came in at 2977 with 1/4 tank of gas and my 130 lb. scrauny arse in the drivers seat. Which is alot heavier than what i read it should weigh. So i guess adding the turbo set up and rolling on 17" Spec V rims has porked it up a bit.
4.time slips:

60' 1/8 1/8 MPH 1000' 1/4 1/4 MPH

1. 2.530 9.972 72.91 12.838 15.228 94.53

2. 2.294 9.558 74.46 12.361 14.725 94.20

3. 2.318 9.572 74.19 12.391 14.749 95.56

If i had a few more runs i coulda gotten the launch a little better. But lack of a LSD makes launching rather tricky. Plus i could squeeze another MPH outta it. Next time out i'll have my MBC and will be running 10 lbs. 'o boost. I'm assuming it wont help the traction issue so the times might be about the same but i'm shooting for 100 MPH. And yes, a LSD is in my immediate future...;)

Cliff
06-12-2008, 11:27 AM
At least your 60' times were better than mine! :rofl:

I was pulling 2.8 and 2.9 second 60' times with traps of 15.3 and 15.5 at 90/92 mph. Non LSD as well.

Motor was shot, though. Meh.

Good runs. Just need more practice on those 60' times. I still firmly believe that with a non-lsd tranny you can hit 2.2 60' times.

What was your tire pressure at?

jonwepa
06-12-2008, 01:34 PM
Get rid of those heavy a$$ 17's, get some 14's or 15's and, try 12-15lbs of boost, and I guarantee a MUCH better time!:D

After all that get atleast a gtir t28 and some slicks or drag radials and you'll be running 12's!!

irf305
06-12-2008, 06:30 PM
Tire pressure was at 20.

jonwepa
06-12-2008, 08:27 PM
What kind of tires? When I had my spec V I use to pull 2.1-2.0 60ft's with those wheels n/a, but it did have a hlsd....

Your a/f set-up is OVER kill for that little turbo man, put something bigger on there already!

irf305
06-12-2008, 10:00 PM
What kind of tires? When I had my spec V I use to pull 2.1-2.0 60ft's with those wheels n/a, but it did have a hlsd....

Your a/f set-up is OVER kill for that little turbo man, put something bigger on there already!

I'm running 215/45/17 BFG G-Force KDW2's. Rather nice tires. They heat up nice and stick rather well.

Yeah when i had Calum redo the ECU he reccomended going with 370's instead of the 555's. There a little to much injector for the T25. He gave me an extra set of chips for 370's incase i ever throw a set in. I'm debating.

jonwepa
06-12-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm running 215/45/17 BFG G-Force KDW2's. Rather nice tires. They heat up nice and stick rather well.

Yeah when i had Calum redo the ECU he reccomended going with 370's instead of the 555's. There a little to much injector for the T25. He gave me an extra set of chips for 370's incase i ever throw a set in. I'm debating.


I'm not saying there not sticky. Its probably more your launching and tranny then the tires and rims. Do you spool the turbo when your staging? I usually bounce the throttle between 4500-5500rpm, which spools the t25 nicely then slip the clutch very fast and your off. This usually resulted in 2.2-2.0 60fts on my stock 14's.

I just ordered a pair of 205/55zr14 nitto 555 drag radials, so I am hoping for some 1.9-1.8 60fts with my new turbo set-up when and if I get it
running:rolleyes:, but thats a whole different story.

Just keep practicing, because even with those huge heavy rims you could still get some 2.2's atleast.

btw you do have motor mounts right?? Because that makes a HUGE difference!

irf305
06-13-2008, 12:13 AM
No mounts yet. Probably gonna fill the stock mounts this weekend with 3M windshield goop. I was idleing it off the line for my last 2 runs. So if i actually left at 2500-3000 ( and don't spin) i should get into the low 2.2's. Keep in mind i've only gotten 3 runs in so far. Next time out i'll do a little better i'm sure. Plus boost controller arrived today. So i'll have a little more pop next time out...:D

jonwepa
06-13-2008, 12:21 AM
No mounts yet. Probably gonna fill the stock mounts this weekend with 3M windshield goop. I was idleing it off the line for my last 2 runs. So if i actually left at 2500-3000 ( and don't spin) i should get into the low 2.2's. Keep in mind i've only gotten 3 runs in so far. Next time out i'll do a little better i'm sure. Plus boost controller arrived today. So i'll have a little more pop next time out...:D

Leaving at idle won't do you any good, you have to spool the turbo. Spool the turbo up at 4500-5000 rpm like I said and you'll leave like a bat out of hell!

With the motor mounts the most important one is the front one, thats the one that gives you that nasty wheel hop.

And definitely try atleast 10psi maybe even 12 psi and you won't be disappointed!

Keep practicing and you'll do nothing but get better each time out.

Be sure to update us when you go out again.

art263
06-15-2008, 04:54 PM
hey man congrats on the runs the car has done better than those times before i ran it with a tmic and 7 psi and made it go 14.2 at 99mph ill try ti find the slip for you throw the azenis back on there and launch at lie 4500 i always did and cant see why you cant

t bags
06-15-2008, 06:25 PM
i had no luck with those azenis's or the nitto's...Ian get urself a lsd trans/puck mounts/ and some stock 15's and run the 225-50-15 bf drag radials and be prepared to hit 13's..does ur car still squat off the line?

irf305
06-15-2008, 11:43 PM
hey man congrats on the runs the car has done better than those times before i ran it with a tmic and 7 psi and made it go 14.2 at 99mph ill try ti find the slip for you throw the azenis back on there and launch at lie 4500 i always did and cant see why you cant

Was this with the stock injectors and all Art? Cause 99 MPH in a 3000 pound car is like 235 horse to the wheels. Which a stock BB det aint putting out. I launched at 3500 which was barelly spooling and all i did was light up the tire. Without a LSD this car aint going anywhere in first if your launching on the boost. I got my MBC Wednesday. Put it in Yesterday. Needless to say first gear is...well...let's just say second gear starts are the way it's gonna be till an LSD gets installed.

irf305
06-15-2008, 11:47 PM
i had no luck with those azenis's or the nitto's...Ian get urself a lsd trans/puck mounts/ and some stock 15's and run the 225-50-15 bf drag radials and be prepared to hit 13's..does ur car still squat off the line?

Yeah the Azenis's are meh. They just can't keep up with the power of the car. Although there on 17" rims the traction difference between the Azenis's and the BFG's was night and day. Of course this was on the street. Never took the Azenis's to E-town. The car's now running 10 psi. Even 2nd gear is getting squirly. LSD or bust!!!!!

The back end squats. The 215/45's are to big. Specially on the rear. The passenger side quarter panel digs into the tire when i'm on the boost. I'm thinking the passenger side coil spring is shot. But either way i need to get some 215/40's for the rear

irf305
06-15-2008, 11:59 PM
Leaving at idle won't do you any good, you have to spool the turbo. Spool the turbo up at 4500-5000 rpm like I said and you'll leave like a bat out of hell!

With the motor mounts the most important one is the front one, thats the one that gives you that nasty wheel hop.

And definitely try atleast 10psi maybe even 12 psi and you won't be disappointed!

Keep practicing and you'll do nothing but get better each time out.

Be sure to update us when you go out again.

I have street tires and no LSD. Leaving at 5000 rpm is not gonna help the 60'. Nor the quarter mile time. Leaving at idle got the car moving. Leaving at 3500 spun the tire like there was no tomorrow. Leaving at 5000. Well...I've been racing at E-town for 15 years now. I'm not new at it. Will i get better the more runs i get. Yes. Will the car run much better times without setting it up for drag racing ( aka LSD, mounts, etc. ). No.

jonwepa
06-16-2008, 12:01 AM
Dude Azenis's are meant for autocross and are pretty heavy and donot belong on a dragway. They have a very stiff sidewall(because there meant for autocross, which is where you need a stiff sidewall), so they will do even worst as you lower the psi. You really need to get yourself better wheels and tires and you'll see a drastic change in the way that car launches. The lack of a lsd isn't hurting you as much as you think it is, its the tires/wheels combo and mm's

just to let you know in my 5 speed maxima, which didn't have a lsd, I use to pull 2.0 and 2.1 60fts.....

jonwepa
06-16-2008, 12:04 AM
I have street tires and no LSD. Leaving at 5000 rpm is not gonna help the 60'. Nor the quarter mile time. Leaving at idle got the car moving. Leaving at 3500 spun the tire like there was no tomorrow. Leaving at 5000. Well...I've been racing at E-town for 15 years now. I'm not new at it. Will i get better the more runs i get. Yes. Will the car run much better times without setting it up for drag racing ( aka LSD, mounts, etc. ). No.


I also have been dragracing for 15yrs and if your using Azenis's then I think you need to learn some more. That is probably the worst drag racing tire you can use.

irf305
06-16-2008, 12:08 AM
I also have been dragracing for 15yrs and if your using Azenis's then I think you need to learn some more. That is probably the worst drag racing tire you can use.

Did you read what i wrote? Come on dude. The guy i got the car from said to use the Azenis's. I didn't. :rolleyes:

irf305
06-16-2008, 12:09 AM
hey man congrats on the runs the car has done better than those times before i ran it with a tmic and 7 psi and made it go 14.2 at 99mph ill try ti find the slip for you throw the azenis back on there and launch at lie 4500 i always did and cant see why you cant

^^^^

jonwepa
06-16-2008, 12:10 AM
btw please don't be offended, I am just trying to help a fellow drag racer out. I am not talking about dropping the clutch either. If you slip it you will not spin that much, the clutch might overheat, but you'll get traction and thats all that matters:biggthump

Anyway goodluck on your practice and be sure to post up when you finally get some traction!

jonwepa
06-16-2008, 12:13 AM
^^^^

I would use regular all season street radials before Azenis's anyday. Bridgestone potenza re960's FTW!!