: S2000....
nx2000racer 08-14-2002, 02:00 PM so im out testin out my new es mount inserts... and i come up behind this S2000... i romped on it and pulled next to him, and we both floored it at the same time... he didnt pull all that fast on me... arent they supposed to be really fast? lol
charlie2020 08-14-2002, 02:18 PM You didn't Vgive Thim Enough Ctime.
SE-Rious B14 08-14-2002, 02:25 PM I recently raced an S2000 from a 1st gear roll. He had intake, exhaust, while i was only on 7psi running extremely rich. Up to about 130 he pulled me by a car, didn't get any uglier than that. Now the boost is turned up to 10psi and overalll running better, so i would like a rematch and show him nissan power :D
dontblameme 08-14-2002, 02:46 PM Well the S2000 is a low to mid 14 sec car, but I've never personally seen one run that fast at the track. In order to drive the car fast, you have to drive it like you hate it or want to kill it. Most people don't want to do that to it.
nx2000racer 08-14-2002, 03:24 PM fuck v-tech, ever heard of torque? thats always there when ya need it... maybe he woulda pulled on me more if he wrapped his crotch rocket engine to 9K. Reguardless, i told him he had a nice car and he told me the same!
NismoSER 08-14-2002, 03:44 PM what they said above. my uncle has an S2000 and he has given me the keys to it a couple times in the past. Feels remarkably like a normal Honda below 6000rpm. You really gotta beat the shit out of it to make it go fast though.
I didn't have a problem doing that :p
Stiletto 08-14-2002, 04:55 PM Originally posted by nx2000racer
fuck v-tech, ever heard of torque? thats always there when ya need it... maybe he woulda pulled on me more if he wrapped his crotch rocket engine to 9K. Reguardless, i told him he had a nice car and he told me the same!
well, not tryin' to be a d!ck, but it's VTEC. not v-tech, that's a phone manufacturer. while our nissans do have the advantage of better torque #'s at lower RPM's, the fact of the matter is torque only gets you so far (around 5252 rpms). then hp become crucial. the s2000 has gobs of ponies on hand, it's too bad that you have to rev to the sky to ride 'em.
98sr20ve 08-14-2002, 05:04 PM Originally posted by NismoSER
Feels remarkably like a normal Honda below 6000rpm. You really gotta beat the shit out of it to make it go fast though.
I didn't have a problem doing that :p
You wouldn't see me complaining about a 9000rpm readline. Just think we could stay in 2nd gear to about 70 mph or maybe more. What fun. I do wonder how brief the powerband is. I have never driven one. That thing would rule as a hardtop. You could lose some weight if you put a top on to help stiffen it up instead of building all the stiffness into the frame. Get it to 2600lbs or so. It would be like a little Z06.
spdracerUT 08-14-2002, 05:39 PM Well, the s2000 wasn't designed to be a drag racer. That's why you're not going to see very good 1/4 mile times from it. You basically have to launch that thing at 8k from what i hear to get it to go. If you race one, race it from a stop. From a roll and if he's in vtec, you better be boostin. Gotta admit that motor is badass, same displacement as the SR and it makes more power than a DET normally aspirated. I think it has the highest specific output of any car on the market (non-turbo).
But like I said, that thing is made to attack road courses. Super stiff chassis (especially for a convertible), great suspension, it'll haul around corners.
Khiem
Kelway 08-14-2002, 06:34 PM They are fast as hell around an auto-x course, too. I call 'em crack-hoe miata's. I have seen stock S2000's blow the doors off Prepared Corvette's, Porsches and what ever else. I would never buy one, but I respect it's engineering.
scmser 08-14-2002, 07:21 PM S2000 seem to be the dike/lesbo car. I've seen more bulldikes driving those cars than steriod-pumped Asian's. I'll take a Miata any day. For the money, their worthless (s2000's).
Crono1321 08-14-2002, 07:54 PM I have driven my friends fully bolted on Integra LS. The power isn't there at low RPM's like on my 200sx. It is, however, very evident at around 5500rpm's. The only thing I don't like is that it seems like a very slow car at low rpms. Upper rpm's are very strong though.
Ju§tin
turbo b13 se-r 08-14-2002, 08:40 PM <-----------ownz s2000's
ThomasSr20 08-14-2002, 10:08 PM I killed a S2000 this past weekend w/85shot my bottle is almost empty.
Walked his ass like 1 car in 1st gear than i don't even see him no after 2nd gear.
Sunder 08-14-2002, 10:41 PM Originally posted by scmser
S2000 seem to be the dike/lesbo car. I've seen more bulldikes driving those cars than steriod-pumped Asian's. I'll take a Miata any day. For the money, their worthless (s2000's).
*ROTFLMAO* At 140 odd pounds, I'm not exactly steroid pumped, but I'm asian, and I drive an S2k.
Anyway, a rolling start is not good for a S2k. For example, just say we were cruising at 40mph. I'd probably be in 6th gear, idling the engine at 2000rpm to save fuel. You come up beside me, wanting to race. I got two options:
1) Slam it back into 2nd, be at about 6500-7000rpm, risk damaging the clutch, but if I get it right, you're smoke.
2) Slip back into third, be around about 4500-5000rpm, and take the run from there, but less pressure on the clutch and more room for mistake. But then I have to wait for VTEC to kick in.
As for standing starts, you really have to play with the clutch to keep it out of the low torque areas. I find if I dump at 6000rpm, and feather the clutch a little so it doesn't drop below 4000rpm, I can slip the wheels a little and get a really quick start.
I've heard of people getting as low as 13.8 quarter miles on a stock S2000. Possible, but considering I'm getting 13.5-13.6 and I've added a few ponies to mine... He must have been a really good driver, or was about to change his clutch anyway :D
Anyway, don't write off S2ks just yet. Don't forget they're NA so you can still turbo them. I'm expecting 350 Rear wheel Horses when I do mine... And don't forget the 3.0 Litre V6 version coming out soon. 12.8 Second quarter mile stock standard.
Finally, I have to have a bit of a brag sheet don't I? Please? Some of the more notable wins I've had are:
1) 500cc Yamaha Bike
2) Turboed 13B RX-7
3) Modified Nissan 200SX :D
JimmyNX2000 08-14-2002, 11:15 PM all i have to say about the S2000's is this, why should we really worry about getting beat by one? after all, this thing is more advanced than ours, but its still funny when we can say we've beat one with our 10 year old cars. hahahahha. now, herse a comparison.
350Z Track vs. S2000.
S2000- OWNED
:) :) :)
scmser 08-14-2002, 11:55 PM I give two shits about any s2000 1/4 mile times, etc. They blow, period. Honda blows, I'm sick of hearing, reading, and working on them.
I consider WRC/rally cars the best cars built on this planet. Better than F1, NASCRAP, whatever. Honda can't and won't ever build a competitive WRC, RAC, or any level rally car in my lifetime. When Honda builds a Delta S4, Pulsar GTI-R, EVO VI, Cossie equivilent, then I'll have respect for them. They are high-strung, high HP, low torque, one trick ponies.
spdracerUT 08-14-2002, 11:57 PM Originally posted by Sunder
1) Slam it back into 2nd, be at about 6500-7000rpm, risk damaging the clutch, but if I get it right, you're smoke.
Hmm.. if you do some double clutch rev matching, shouldn't be a prob at all. Whenever I rev match correctly when downshifting, the shifter practically falls into gear and there's absolutely no strain on the clutch (since the revs are matched between the input and output shafts).
As for the 350Z vs. S2000 comparison; I'd think it'd be strictly up to the drivers. Though I do think the Z would be easier to drive from what I've heard about the s2000.
Khiem
Sunder 08-15-2002, 01:32 AM Originally posted by JimmyNX2000
all i have to say about the S2000's is this, why should we really worry about getting beat by one? after all, this thing is more advanced than ours, but its still funny when we can say we've beat one with our 10 year old cars. hahahahha. now, herse a comparison.
350Z Track vs. S2000.
S2000- OWNED
:) :) :)
I guess it reminds me of the scene in "The Fast and The Furious", you know, where the Orange Supra does a (very) illegal street race against the Ferarri.
The Ferrari probably spent 5 - 6 times more on his car than the Supra, yet the Supra beat it. What's the point? That the Ferarri driver should have bought the Supra instead? I don't think any Ferarri driver would ever consider that.
In early september, I am going to have to drag a car with 170Kw at the engine, and 700kg kerb weight. Total cost of this car: $12,000 USD (Converted from Australian Dollars)
So what's the point? I've spent heaps more than him and got a car that's a fair bit slower? All in all, he's still got a Mitsubishi Mirage and I've still got a Honda S2000.
One final thing to say. A mate of mine bought a Alfa Romeo Spyder. He made it a policy of never dragging anyone. Ever. Why? Because if he won, then the other person just goes "Well, so what, he's got a sports car, I've got my done up Corolla/Pulsar/whatever". If he loses, he'd never hear the end of it, because he was beaten by a "lesser car". He's in a lose/lose situation. By your comment above, you've put yourself in a win/win situation. If you get beat, so what, their car is 10 years newer than yours. If you win, well... Congratulate yourself, what a great car you must have to beat a state of the art Honda.
Hey, let's face it. Whatever your car is worth, I reckon I could buy a second hand Hyundai Excel and build a faster car than yours with money left over.
You enjoy your Nissan, I'll enjoy my Honda, they're both great cars to suit different tastes. :)
Mindset 08-15-2002, 01:39 AM Originally posted by spdracerUT
I think it has the highest specific output of any car on the market (non-turbo).
The Nissan Pulsar VZ-R (i think i got the letters right) came with a 1.6L 200ps and i think ~135 torque. Though I dont think they still make it, and it was never available in North America, thus the s2000 has the highest output per litre in North America.
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