I'm currently undertaking the process of changing my 95 200sx SE to the perfect answer for Hondas VTEC... the SR20VE. Ive found a write up on a change over from a GA16 to a SR20DE for a B13, i am assuming that this is close if not the same as the change to a VE. My first question is if anyone knows how similar the change of a B13 is to a B14? And my second is that if you have done this mod, please look at the following list and tell me what im leaving out.

What I Think I Need for this SWAP:

SR20 Tranny w/LSD (Does anyone think the '01 SE or '03 SER 6spd would work?)
Axles (OEM Half Shafts)
JWT ECU (VE Program)
MSD RPM Switches
Header (Anyone know the best VE header?)
Motor Mounts (Not sure if all or only 1 of 4 have to be replaced)
ACT Stage 2 Clutch

ROUND 2:
AEM CAI
Brake Upgrade
Stromung Exhaust

Let me know what u think, and if i might be leaving anything out.

Cripes A'Mighty! You can start by posting this in the SR20VE forum.

made a post in SR20VE, im a native of the B15 boards, so i know how the process works, If you read up on the post, the swap is similar to the swap to a SR20DE, that is where i am realy asking for my help at. I figure General would give me my largest audiance of info. I just need the basics of a change over from 1.6 to 2.0, the rest isnt much different.

You can check out this link for some tips and read the article on the SR20 drop in.

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/february99/

I would put brakes in the first round. I am not sure how 200SX SE brakes are, but when I had the SR20DE swap done in my 93 XE, the brakes were no match for the power of the new engine. I am sure the VE will be more than your current brakes can handle.

yea i read the article, but its based on a B13 change over. Im interested if the B14 swap and was wondering what might be different, and what parts seem to work best for this change.

As far as i know, the only headers available for the VE have to be imported and are made by Fujitsubo and Impul, (Have you even read the FAQ over in the VE section?) I know Shoes59 has a Fujitsubo on his VE. Don't know who you get them from or how much they cost. I'd Imagine Andreas Miko can get you a header for it. You forgot to put an engine harness on your list as well as any parts that won't swap from your GA16 to the SR20. I don't know what parts those would be, nobody could seem to tell me when I was researching a GA to SR swap. I always heard things like, "possibly A/C compressor, PS pump and hoses, water pump, ETC." Like how open ended it is? Not much help but that's all I have to offer.

yea ive read every thing i could unfer the SR20VE section. Did read about HS possibly making one state side, but i didnt see any follow up on that. Andreas is the source of the engine, just curious header wise. Any help is better then none at all. I am actualy surprised that a GA16 to SR20 swap isnt documented for the B14 platform... i guess it must be fairly similar to the B13 change over.

Originally posted by jaycue01
yea ive read every thing i could unfer the SR20VE section. Did read about HS possibly making one state side, but i didnt see any follow up on that. Andreas is the source of the engine, just curious header wise. Any help is better then none at all. I am actualy surprised that a GA16 to SR20 swap isnt documented for the B14 platform... i guess it must be fairly similar to the B13 change over.

As far as the header you can try and get one of the two listed in the VE sticky. Shoes and I both have the Fujitsuba (or whatever?). It is very nice. Also, the AEBS for the DE (or whatever they call it?) is what bigtom is running. It is a nice 4-1 design that really suits the VE's powerband. There is a little overlap on the header that could be cleaned up (but probably not eliminated). Maybe they will start making these again. Any DE header will have the same overlap issues. It's not hurting Bigtom to badly. I can tell you that when you swap the VE the only things you need to connect are: TB, MAF, DIST, O2 (or O2's depending on setup), INJ Harness, IAC/AACV (idle stuff), Oil preasure, Water temp x2 (switch the JDM single for the US single). All the EGR should just be left connected to the US sensor but not installed on engine (no provissions for it). I don't think I missed anything but it is just the basic fuel injection stuff, plus fuel, and coolant.
The 01 SE tranny will work but you will need to convert to the hydrolic clutch and I have no idea how to do it other then get a parts car that is a 01 and buy the entire pedal and hydrolic assemble and then force it into your car. It would probably be easier then just buying some Willwood pedals which would be another option (that would look really cool). I wouldn't bother. The 02+ 6speed is not going to fit.
What I don't know is the pysical pieces that you need to get a sr20 into your car (motor mounts, etc). Hope this helpls.

Edit: Dont get the strummong exhaust. IIRC it is only 2.25 inchs. That is way to small for a VE. I just dynoed a 2.5 inch on my car versus the stock B14 exhaust and made 12 whp. For all you doubters I didnt lose any power anywhere. I also gained 400 rpm before the power peaked 6800-7200. Get a greddy or some other 60mm exhaust that is full mandrel bent stuff or make a 2.5 inch one.

If you read up on the post, the swap is similar to the swap to a SR20DE, that is where i am realy asking for my help at.
I disagree, of course. The VE is too rare a bird for just anyobody to have pertinent knowlege at their fingertips. I should post a question here about swapping a small-block Chevy into my SE-R because, in theory, it's similar to swapping in a VE? I think I would have much better help in the Adding Dead Weight forum.

My (too logical?) 2¢.

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I disagree, of course. The VE is too rare a bird for just anyobody to have pertinent knowlege at their fingertips. I should post a question here about swapping a small-block Chevy into my SE-R because, in theory, it's similar to swapping in a VE? I think I would have much better help in the Adding Dead Weight forum.

My (too logical?) 2¢.

I just did it 3 weeks ago. It was no different the putting then putting the same engine back in with some minor exceptions: Throttle linkage, Heater hose, RPM triggers for VVL, and distributor. Everything else was plug and play. I have documented all this in the VE section. What jaycueo1 needs to know is what parts are needed to swap a sr20 into a b14 that had the GA16.

I guess car forums will never change, always at least one critic in every thread. I asked a simple question, this is no depate as to if it is the same or not, i simply asked what would be needed if someone say ME wanted to swap an SR20DE into a B14 that had originaly had a GA16DE. If that question wasnt clear before i hope that it is now, for whom ever else wishes to be a critic.

Thank for the back up 98sr20ve, and all the info. I've been doing as much reading as i can, and from what i can see its gonna be a wallet cruncher to build this thing. Good think i only spent 1500 on the car to start with :D but my new and improved list is as follows:

SMC Kwik Stop Big Brake Kit
*Stillen Sway Bars (Front & Rear)
*Stillen Strut Braces (Front & Rear)
96 SE-R Tranny (Save me some money)
SR20DE Motor Mounts (B13 requires only Dog Bone Mount)
SR20DE Wire Harness
Axles (OEM Half Shafts)
JWT ECU (VE Program)
ECU Frame Bracket Holder (Required for B13)
MSD RPM Switches
Fujitsubo Header (How do i order this?)
AEM CAI
2.5” Exhaust

A question for you 98sr20ve... what exhaust system did u go with? and did they pattern from the stock bends (e.i. was is bolt on)?

Looks like ill be taking a trip to pick-a-part to see if i can come up with some of the stuff. I took on a bigger project then i expected as far as change overs. I have always loved my nissans and hated me a honda, but i can tell you one thing... honda engineers seem to have worked together on engine projects. Most honda engine have alot more interchangable parts.

I am getting a custom 2.5 inch exhaust for my car all magnaflow stuff. I have run it a couple times but it rattles and triggers my knock sensor(I think). I ran it on the dyno (with a rag to kill the rattle) and compared it to the stock b14 exhaust and made 12 whp with it over stock (It didn't have a resonator but will very soon) I will hopefully be dynoing this weekend again. Coertesy Nissan has a B pipe that is 60mm that you could add your own muffler to. If you do this cut the last piece that necks down to the stock muffler size off and just start from their. This b-pipe would save a lot of fabrication for anyone looking to do a custom exhaust. I wish I knew about it 3 months ago.

I can save you some money on your list. www.fastbrakes.com for you BABK stuff. Willwood fronts at a good price. It's what I have. You will want to upgrade the rears if you do the fronts IMHO. Also, if you want to turn (not just go straight) just get the Stillen adjustable rear bar for the B14 and not the front. Any upgrade on the front just gives to much understeer on a B14. I see you mention B13 a lot. This is for a B14 isn't it? Post in the VE section for the header question. My contact may have gone dry but we can always try again. Also don't do the AEM CAI for a VE it is tuned for the DE not the VE and is to small (I say that a lot) Get a Place Racing and get the right adapter that they sell. Don't buy the Hotshot unless you get it cheap and then get the PR MAF adapter (a search in the VE section should yield the type you want, MaxO2???). www.raxles.com has new axles for our cars for under 200 a piece. They are not rebuilt. If you want a NON-LSD tranny to put a Nismo LSD into I could sell you my old one cheap. I would also install the LSD for free. I installed the Quaife in my tranny and feel like a pro now. I also have the drivers side axle that would go with the tranny. Then you would only need the passenger side one.

ECU Frame Bracket Holder (Required for B13)????
SR20DE Motor Mounts (B13 requires only Dog Bone Mount)????

What is this B13 stuff about on a B14???

jaycue01 wrote in his very first post to this thread:
I'm currently undertaking the process of changing my 95 200sx SE to the perfect answer for Hondas VTEC... the SR20VE.
That's what I based my answer upon. Why did you write that if you were looking for SR20DE info?

And I still say, if you want SR20VE info, posting to the SR20VE forum will net you better, concise answers.

I agree, bulletin boards will never change...

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
jaycue01 wrote in his very first post to this thread:
That's what I based my answer upon. Why did you write that if you were looking for SR20DE info?

And I still say, if you want SR20VE info, posting to the SR20VE forum will net you better, concise answers.

I agree, bulletin boards will never change...

Yes, your right. People with little knowledge about a subject posting replies critizising someone who is just in the search of some information. This has hit a nerve for me. He doesn't need the help on the VE part. He needs to know what is involved in the transition from a GA to a SR series engine. I guess jaycue01 should have lied and just said it was for a regular sr20de. Just so you know their are a total of 4 extra wires that you use to hook up a VE other then that it is basically just like swaping in a sr20de. I have a complete writeup that he can/should use for the VE transition. I wanted others to feel good about the swap process so I took the time to write it all up. The VE forum gets very little traffic and now his post is back in the VE forum. I hope he got the info he needed before it was moved.

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I mention the b13 so much because the only write ups ive found for a upgrade from a GA16 car upgraded to SR20 seems to be all done in a B13. As far as it looks , this will be the first B14 to ever be convered to SER status. So i just ask questions as difference between B13 as to B14. Thanxs for all the info, im going to start with the suspension upgrade... im new to the B14 ive had my B15 for almost 2yrs, and things seem to be slightly similar.

There have been others who converted a B14 GA to an SR20. I guess that you are right in that nobody has posted their write-up on it because it is probably very similar to the B13.

You probably would get more responses that would help if you posted a new thread asking what the differences are in converting a B14 GA16-SR20 as compared to a B13 GA16-SR20. If that is the info you really need, then you don't even need to mention that you will be doing a VE instead of DE swap. You already seem to know the extra steps involved in using a VE.

I wish I could help more, but I only sort of know about the B13 swap.

Tommy

Well so far it looks like im going to be spending around 4000 to get this project ready for the motor. That will probably be set back for about 4months to gather the parts and put the car together. Once i get the car looking like an SER with the engine pulled, ill order the MSD Switches, Engine, and ECU to make the car run again. In short... ill be puting my VE project on hold. A quick question though... is anyone running a VE from California... im curious to know if i can get this thing to pass emmissions if i take this leap. I might have to make this a DET project if thats the case. I'm looking for a street legal drag car here. I've also heard hear say about a 2000-01 SE SR20 Roller Motor being able to bolt a VE head right on. IF this is even possible, a good question to ask Andreas is "can u get just a head shipped over?" and another good question concerning this, would the MSD Switches still work if u only bolt on the head.

Well so far it looks like im going to be spending around 4000 to get this project ready for the motor. That will probably be set back for about 4months to gather the parts and put the car together. Once i get the car looking like an SER with the engine pulled, ill order the MSD Switches, Engine, and ECU to make the car run again. In short... ill be puting my VE project on hold. A quick question though... is anyone running a VE from California... im curious to know if i can get this thing to pass emmissions if i take this leap. I might have to make this a DET project if thats the case. I'm looking for a street legal drag car here. I've also heard hear say about a 2000-01 SE SR20 Roller Motor being able to bolt a VE head right on. IF this is even possible, a good question to ask Andreas is "can u get just a head shipped over?" and another good question concerning this, would the MSD Switches still work if u only bolt on the head.
there are a couple of people with ve's in ca, as i've heard they pass smog quite well as long as they are running correctly, the absense of the egr valve and PAIR makes it impossible to smog at a normal smog station (fail visually, functionally), but if you get it referee'd you'll pass with flying colors, the n.e.o. stands for nissan ecology oriented, i think.....

You do know this thread is from 2002, right?