Which one would win in a 1/4 mile race? i know the rwd car has the better hookup off the line but the fwd has the better drivetrain loss. Im speaking about the stock vs stock blacktop rwd (205hp) vs the fwd bluebird. No mods, nothing. Any ideas?

Stock for stock? DET vs. DET? FWD car because it's lighter. You're not making so much power yet that traction becomes an issue. Eventually, RWD. Reasons being: weight transfer and the fact that you can stuff a lot more rubber on the rear of a 240 than the front of a se-r.

Khiem

thanks for the reply...im kinda curious as to where the 240 would start walking the classic...what kind of numbers....as in what would the 240 have to have to beat a stock fwd det?

If they are both Stock, Then I would have to go with the RWD, it's goin to get off the line better than the FWD.

OK...Why would RWD win but some of these turbo guys are beating Camaros?? Isnt the Camaro RWD....I dont see how you can just say RWD or FWD we have to look at the Horsepower of both cars and other variables. FWD CAN and WILL beat RWD cars with the same power in some instances. Someone correct me??

Originally posted by SeenSense
OK...Why would RWD win but some of these turbo guys are beating Camaros?? Isnt the Camaro RWD....I dont see how you can just say RWD or FWD we have to look at the Horsepower of both cars and other variables. FWD CAN and WILL beat RWD cars with the same power in some instances. Someone correct me??

And where in his post did he mention a Camaro? He was asking who would win 1/4 mile RWD SR20DET(205) or FWD SR20DET(205). I have to go RWD in the 1/4 and I feel the FWD would probably win on a roll start.

THanks Skyliner took the words out of my mouth.

If both were stock ...FWD !!! I have seen It many times ... one Example .. the 150 HP KA24DE 93 Altima SE 5spd. will most always beat the 155 HP KA24DE 93 240SX SE 5spd's !!! stock for stock !!!! Like it was said , 205 HP is not enough to be a traction problem , and the FWD will have alot less drivetrain loss !!! And of all of the 240SX's I have driven ... They have traction problems with 155 HP !!!!

Hmm... well, it would be VERY close now that I think about it. If you're just talking 1/4, it might be a dead heat. Reason being... on street tires, a good driver can cut 2.2 60'ft FWD, and 2.0? RWD. So the RWD will have about a .2 sec advantage out of the hole.

A Det should be able to spin the tires from a roll in 1st (FWD, dunno about RWD). But that's it, traction isn't a problem after that. Now considering that the typical SE-R wieghs around 2500 and the S14 weighs around 2800... the se-r has a 300 lb weight advantage. So it'll be running down the S14 at the end of the 1/4. As for who'll get there first? Dunno.....

From a roll, the SE-R would kill by virtue of being a lot lighter.

Khiem

guess we need 2 good drivers and 2 stock det's for a litle ead to head to settle this one..whos in? LOL

I don't have traction problems in my 240, course it could be because I'm at over 5k ft in altitdude its all about the launch if you want traction, of course I'm not going to dump the clutch hehe, I tweet the tires at the beginning and then not any more slips, even when I shift to 2nd at 6k, but who knows launching is different with a turbo motor. I should have the clip in about 2.5 months and should have it in about a half a month after (wanna save for 1k extra just incase)

well, if the WEIGHT of the Fwd was the same as the Rwd, then the Rwd would win, BUT, it's not. the weight is what holds the 240 back. out of 2 stock DET's the Fwd would win the 1/4

A 240 (S14) with a stock DET (S13) with the boost cranked up will do low 13s on street tires.

See my neighbor's 240 (http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21158)

He did 12.8 on slicks. IIRC best I've seen a T25 do in a Sentra around is 13.9 without cams. RWD wins!

Cheers,
Charlie :)

Well I mentioned the camaro to give a RWD car to compare. I really dont know the answer...aight

Originally posted by Yellow4g63
THanks Skyliner took the words out of my mouth.
i have to agree eith the both of you, a 60 foot is everything in the quater mile and the rear wheel drive will get out of the hole a little faster and i think mantain the lead the rest of the way, with the front drive pulling toward the end....
Sean

He did 12.8 on slicks. IIRC best I've seen a T25 do in a Sentra around is 13.9 ok, im wating for a few california guys to say something now......................

Sean

Originally posted by CharlieH98
A 240 (S14) with a stock DET (S13) with the boost cranked up will do low 13s on street tires.

See my neighbor's 240 (http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21158)

He did 12.8 on slicks. IIRC best I've seen a T25 do in a Sentra around is 13.9 without cams. RWD wins!

Cheers,
Charlie :)

no mods! not even boost! stock bro! tats was the point of the thread....not tryin to troll just tryin to let ya know

Originally posted by CharlieH98
A 240 (S14) with a stock DET (S13) with the boost cranked up will do low 13s on street tires.

See my neighbor's 240 (http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21158)

He did 12.8 on slicks. IIRC best I've seen a T25 do in a Sentra around is 13.9 without cams. RWD wins!

Cheers,
Charlie :)

My brothers G20 with a stock BB DET , T25 , top mount @ 13 lbs on slicks ran 13.08@107 .... And that was with NO tuning , stock timing , JWT ECU , no exhaust ..... In a Sentra that would be in the 12.8 area !!!!

Stock vs stock on street tires i'd give the edge to the B13. Simply because at stock boost the 300 extra lbs in the 240 will cancel out the better weight distribution, giving the 240 a slightly better launch, but the sentra should pass it up by the end of the 1/4mi. At higher hp levels, those 300lbs won't mean jack.

Originally posted by sleeping 91ser
He did 12.8 on slicks. IIRC best I've seen a T25 do in a Sentra around is 13.9 ok, im wating for a few california guys to say something now......................

Sean He actually ran a 12.78 on slicks (his best time)

on street tires he ran a 1.9 60' and 13.0 in the 1/4.

By stock what do you guys mean?

Because Sentras/200sx with an SR20DET cant and never will be stock, unless you use all the bluebirds equipment IE...intercooler, intercooler piping and aboslutley no prefabbed aftermarket parts like 3" downpipes, or hot shot FMIC's.

where as a 240sx with an SR20DET can be 100% all nissan parts, if you use ALL the parts from a JDM front clip (with the exception of a Maxima ACT clutch)

So, what definition of stock are you guys using?