Objective: finish the install of an SR16VE (blue) into a '92 se-r

Facts: the ECU connection on the '92 se-r and the VVL motor are the same, same amount of pins and they plug in together (both the older style blue connector)

Question: If I use the FSM from the '92 and trace each connector wire to where it goes, will the VVL ECU and the '92 ECU have the same wires to perform the same functions on the same place on the ECU pins?


I have the motor in and have the factory VVL harness on the motor with the ECU, but the ECU does not recognize that it is in the car because of the 2 plugs that are not connected under the dash, oddly, the '92 chassis that I am putting it into also has 2 connectors that plug into wires coming from the ECU, such things as fuel pump sendor, check engine light, tach, etc

What I want to do is look at the VVL harness and for example trace a wire from one of the connectors and see that it goes to pin no. 2 on the ECU, look at my FSM, see that pin 2 is for the tach and that corresponds to pin 6 on the connector, etc

then, change the connectors and re-solder it

**** what I am not sure of is: Does Nissan use the same pins on the ECU's to perform the same functions, or do they change it? I am thinking that it is a decent chance that they would be the same location, if so, then this will be a nice way to do this.
I know that a '93.5 G20 and a '92 se-r, the pins are the same, yet the under the dash connectors are different, so this seems to yield to my theory, if Nissan does it for them, then maybe they did it for the VVL as well, but without a FSM for the VVL, I don't know


at this point, I have fuel pressure and can turn the starter, but the ECU still needs to see some signals before it will give the car spark

JGY

I dont know if you ever heard of rich from fatmanracing.com he has a whole book on jspec engines with every diagram in their. i remember him showing me all the sr engine wiring schematics and diagrams next time i talk to him i will see if he can scan that for me

please do


heck, if you do it tonight, I will schedule a back rub session for you in your area

Originally posted by Jason Garrett Young
please do


heck, if you do it tonight, I will schedule a back rub session for you in your area lol cant have it done by tonight he lives in michigan and im in il he said the diagrams are huge though he would need to go to kinkos i spoke with him today. he should be getting back to me soon, as for a timeframe im unsure of that.

Well, it didn't work

I spent alot of time on this. Apparently the ECU pins are not the same.

Man, this was frustrating.

Most of the wires *appeared* to me that I was on the right track, but some.....for example, some pins were on the VVL ECU that were not even there in the FSM for a SR out of a '92, and the wire would run to one of the connectors under the dash, so obviously, I couldn't connect it

Another one, the ECCS relay that is connected to the ECU (ECCS) well, the wires on the SR that go to it, are apparently in a different spot on the VVL

I guess without the VVL harness FSM info, it is pointless to continue, because you can't trace the wires and see where they go to, if they go to a plug and the plug isn't there

bottom line, the motor wouldn't run
I got the starter to turn the motor, but it didn't run

sorry i havent been able to get any info to you yet jason but rich hasnt been online lately. i will try to see when this can be done.

Camppain, Tell me about your 240 for sale. I may be interested.

Originally posted by CAMPPAIN
I dont know if you ever heard of rich from fatmanracing.com he has a whole book on jspec engines with every diagram in their. i remember him showing me all the sr engine wiring schematics and diagrams next time i talk to him i will see if he can scan that for me

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh I have the same problem!! I could also REALLY need a diagram over the SR20VE engine and ECU!!

Could I be so lucky that he might want to fax or scan and mail me the diagrams!? :o)))

Best Regards

$20 if this solves my problem

pay to you or him, I don't care


p.s. what does him having to be online have to do with anything?

http://fatmanracing.tripod.com/Manuals/manuals.htm

well, uh, what can I do?

Originally posted by Jason Garrett Young
$20 if this solves my problem

pay to you or him, I don't care


p.s. what does him having to be online have to do with anything?

http://fatmanracing.tripod.com/Manuals/manuals.htm

well, uh, what can I do?

well he doesnt have it scanned and last time i talked to him he said he would have to see how he could scan it cause he said it was huge like 4 ft by something which suprised me

I have talked to Rich from fatman racing and he can't help with the SR20VE

I quote

"I'm not sure why people said _I_ have information on the SR20VE, I do have a Japanese manual for HNU13 Bluebird which may include some diagrams in the wiring supplement
I personally have never dealt with the VE, only the DET version of the motor, so I may not be as much help as you would like."

ok, fatmanracing is a dead end


surely since they made thousands of these motors, that someone knows someone that has one in Japan/Orient, that would be willing to scan it for us.

Hell, I'll buy the whole factory service manual from them.

$$$what ever the book costs and $20 for their time to UPS it to me, plus the shipping

I am also MORE than willing to pay for such a manual!!! :)

Can't understand why NOBODY can get their hands on this manual!?
Heck I can get my hands on ANY manual on European Nissan engines!!!??? We just DON'T have the SR20VE engine here in Europe

What about JWT they must know which pins on the SR20VE ECU the signals to the solenoids come from!! Maybe they will give us the info!?!?!?!? Just maybe......

Originally posted by Jason Garrett Young
ok, fatmanracing is a dead end


surely since they made thousands of these motors, that someone knows someone that has one in Japan/Orient, that would be willing to scan it for us.

Hell, I'll buy the whole factory service manual from them.

$$$what ever the book costs and $20 for their time to UPS it to me, plus the shipping

I will try and put you in touch with someone who can purchase the manual and help you translate it. Hopefully he will help.

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
I will try and put you in touch with someone who can purchase the manual and help you translate it. Hopefully he will help.

Hmmmmmmm can we kiss you......... :D

That would be SO great if that is possible!

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
I will try and put you in touch with someone who can purchase the manual and help you translate it. Hopefully he will help.
Do you have Adam in mind?

Originally posted by Shoes59
Do you have Adam in mind?

No not Adam. Someone else.

Originally posted by TeamNISSAN
Hmmmmmmm can we kiss you......... :D



If you are a Blond, Swedish and look like one of those Women from beer commercials... Yes you can. :D Otherwise. NO :eek:

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
If you are a Blond, Swedish and look like one of those Women from beer commercials... Yes you can. :D Otherwise. NO :eek:

he he he hmmmmm I'm Danish and Blond, but male!!*LOL*

But anyway I would almost give my right arm for a diagram or a scheme over the pins on the ECU! :)

Originally posted by TeamNISSAN
I'm Danish
My favorite brand of shoes are made in Denmark, Ecco. Have 4 pair ;-)

Jim