sorry this is goin to be long but i ran into one to many problems when installing my turbo and now i regret it.k i hope someone can help me here *** i attempted to install my turbo day with little instructions, well i installed my 270injects on my g20 a week ago-car ran fine just alittle hesitation when starting, then i installed the ecu and the rest of the setup today-car started approx maybe 5 times then wouldnt turn over at all,

but this was stupid on my part, when i was running the intercooler up front i ran out of piping so i left the ic off and ran the pipe from the turbine to outside the car, so that way the turbine was stilling pulling in air through the maf and that way i could throw a short ram on the TB *** i was figuring aslong as the MAf is reading air then i can just throw the filter on after the two vac hoses on the TB w/ic so i could get it home and work on it tomorow, but also another problem was i couldnt find the oilfeed on the back of the engine from what i was told so instead i poured alittle bit of oil throught the feed so hopefully i wouldnt burn it up on the way home(its only a mile away so i thought it would be fine) then i tried to run the water feed to the hose coming out of the water pump but i found out that the hose had a metal piping goin through that so then i did something else stupid and ran it though the power steering if i think im correct the one in the black canister that also runs to the water pump, and to top off the horrible day i was unable to patch up the hose i cut in the first place and everytime i started it, radiator fluid expelled from every angle. and before all these mishaps, when i tried to tap into the block at the bottom in that about a inch pre made circle that im not positive but correct me if im wrong is a oil dump even though coolant was leaking out of it after i ran the car, but anyways when i taped it, it didnt turn out soo smooth but was pretty tight in the block with teflon tape but i was curious would alittle jbweld close any leaks. but now it doesnt even turnover and actually sounds like bad starter noise.

so i guess all im asking is for some one to please help me out on the locations of the oil and water feeds and maybe why else i might be having problems with it or what i did wrong?

1. Hope your kidding.
2. If not, put all stock components back on your car
3. Read this fourm, search search search, goto se-r.net and read some more.
4. After about 5 months of reasearch - try again.
5. OTherwise - get someone to come up and help you.


Chris

That was the longest run-on sentence I have ever seen. I agree with Chris. Put it back to stock and find a mechanic who knows how to do this kind of work.

Good luck,

I should send this post to my elementary school English teacher. :)

Just goes to show how important punctuation is. I didn't understand a goddamn thing from that. Good luck man.

Wow my head hurts from reading that. I feel sorry for the car:( :( :confused:

well i can't blame him for his sentence. he is in dispare, and in panic, he just messed his car up. i know how that feels after i blew up my civic, with a 300 shot of nitrous(i know i am a dumbass). just reserch man or pay someone to do it.

Originally posted by Chip
well i can't blame him for his sentence. he is in dispare, and in panic, he just messed his car up. i know how that feels after i blew up my civic, with a 300 shot of nitrous(i know i am a dumbass).


ROTF!!!!!!!! Now thats insane! LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Okay.... where to start.... where did you go wrong? You tried to install a turbo without understanding how everything works.

Aight, about the maf. From what I can figure, you left the maf attached to the turbo and then just had the turbo outlet venting. Then you just put the filter on before the throttle body. Aight, so the maf is suppose to measure the amount of air going into the motor right? The way you had it setup, it was measuring the air going thru the turbo but NOT the motor. So you have the Maf telling the ecu one thing, and the motor seeing another. It's not going to work that way. What you should have done was put the MAF before the throttle body.

Aight, turbos need oil for the bearings. Sounds like you didn't have any oil going to it; consider it toast and that you'll need a new turbo. You MIGHT be lucky and it MIGHT be rebuildable but I HIGHLY doubt it. I had an oiling problem where the turbo just wasn't getting enough oil (it was still getting a constant stream of oil), and I fried the bearings after driving a HALF a mile and had to get it rebuilt (and it was just barely rebuildable, they had to machine the center section a bit). So you had NO oil and drove for how many miles? Yeah, buy a new turbo.

Go back to stock, hopefully you didn't FUBAR your motor. Once you make sure the motor runs correctly stock, then do you research on turbos and then install one.

Hey, gotta live and learn, I did when doing my turbo(s)(i'm on number 3 becaues I messed up twice).

Khiem

Originally posted by Chip
i know how that feels after i blew up my civic, with a 300 shot of nitrous(i know i am a dumbass).

Wait..... WHO SOLD YOU THE NOS KIT????????? Now THEY are the dumbass for not stopping you!

Khiem

it was a local shop i was 16, and wanting to go fast, it was a NOS wet kit, i had it hooked up right, i just forgot to ass the nitrous jet, ooopppss, it lasted about 4 times hitting the button, i had a basically stock '95 civic CX hatch back(king of swaps nowadays) D15 8V OHC motor, 76HP 98TQ(only honda motor ever built with more TQ then HP). with bolt ons. it ripped wheels in 3rd gear when i hit it. the most go awful knocking sound was coming from the motor, fast as shit though...while it lasted. then BOOOM motor all ove the road, 4 holes in the block where you could see though it, blew out a rod end, that was broken and bent, i still have that. crazy shit. i have come a long way with nitrous though, then i blewup the motor in my new car with on 15k miles on it, foudn out the new SR20 can't take a 75 shot of ZEX, not enough fuel. blew that up rebuilt, and finally got it right with a 75 shit wet kit from NX, but pulled that off now and i want a turbo, there is the story of my cars life.

sorry to throw this off topic...back to the thread

i got everything hooked into the right place for sure now. i grounded the the plugs to the block and noticed i got a spark and also i could hear my fuel filter kick on when i turned the key to on. but the engine still wouldnt turn over. i swaped back to stock plugs and stock ecu but no luck. then i devanced the timming as far as it would go and for some reason it started up fine. but runs like shit though, do you think its my distributor thats throwing my timming off so bad that it completely misses when the timming is at normal setting. or am i still doin somethin wrong?any help thanks


matt

Seriously - if you are "hearing your fuel filter come on" you need to take your car to a mechanic...

You do know to adjust timing on our cars you have to lock it in timing mode - and that when you have a turbo ECU you have to run at stock (15deg) timing right??


Serious man, get some friends to help or take it to a shop.

Chris

I think he meant fuel pump!

exactly, but if he thinks its the fuel filter making that sound......

Serious dude - be kind - don't kill a se-r :-P

Sure someone in ohio can help ya out... post in the midwest forum

Chris

k i think im closer and also taking my time, the other night i figured since there was a spark from every plug and you could hear the fuel pump turn on the the timming must be soooooooooo far off that it just completely misses. so i devanced the timming and all the sudden it starts, but some reason it would start at the normal timming. the next morning i moved it back to the spot where it wasnt working. then i set the TDC and checked the distributor and it was perfect, guess what it started up fine and ran great. but when driving these are the symptoms:

1 putters when accelerating
2 it will idle fine when first started, but stalls at every stop when im driving it but if i down shift no problem, and ive never taken it above 3rmp
3 white smoke comes out the exhaust when driving and black when accelerating
4 after about 2 miles of driving(consider im babying it too 2.5rpm is as high as i'll go) it will start to jerk back and forth as if somethin is slippin but the only way to stop it is to down shift or either take it out of gear but then usually stalls(stalling part could be the fuel filter i think)
5 also sounds kinda like a rattle from the exhaust part of the turbine.
6 also im not running a bov but about to put one it, do you think that has to do with any of the problems


please help i dont wanna put my sr20 threw any more pain, and i would love to go back to stock so i could do it all over again and take alot more time. but my dad said if i dont get the car running soon then i gotta have it towed to the dealer and have them fix it and im affraid they're gonna strip it all off. plus my dad said iwas gonna have to pay for anything that was wrong and the labor so pretty much i'll be screwed. thanks

matt

Well, my guess is that your car will be back to normal, well, mostly, after you get it back to stock. Take off all of the turbo stuff, put the stock or whatever header back on, the stock air intake back on, make sure all of the vacuum lines are connected correctly, etc. Put a plug in the hole in the block for the oil drain and see how it all runs after that. I'm assuming you put in 370cc injectors and running JWT, just leave it like that. I ran the 370ccs with the JWT turbo program before I actually put on the turbo for a few months and it ran perfect.

The white smoke is coolant burning, the black is running too rich, and the noise from the turbo is that the bearings are shot, and the turbine wheel is probably about to fall off (i know this from personal experience, found the turbine wheel in the cat!).

Khiem

Wow. Hey man, take your time and go back to a point where the car is running properly. Research and see what you did wrong and what your going to due to ensure it runs right. I think you can do it despite what others are saying.

You have done so much at this point that you have too many variables to say over a forum what you've done wrong.

Read, Research, Retry.

Fella's help him out if your near by, he is struggling.

The next post I want to hear from you is about you figuring out what you did wrong.

hooooooolyyyyyyyy shit....yeah like everyone else said....make it like stock again. then read this: http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19062

its a thread on how to CORRECTLY do a turbo install.

good luck bro

hope you didnt mess your engine up

turns out it was the 02, and the the oil and coolant coming out the exhuast was due to a bad seal in the turbine, but a friend is rebuilding it so i should have it back on soon. everything running fine on stock but the car seems to stall at stops before it gets warmed up.im guessing fuel pump.

matt

Sounds more like the IACV...

Didn't you fudge with the timing also - check that...

Serious - when you get the turbo back, consider going to Ben Davis's, he has geek outs and a bunch of car nuts come and do stuff to other peoples cars for free.

Chris