i dont know much about the ve motor, but im wondering if u could swap the head out and put it on a de, and obveously all the wirering. if this is posible, has anybody done it and where can i get a ve head and all the goodies to make it work?

you can just put the head on if you want. its not so hard to do. harder to find the head.

The VE head wont line up with a DE.

should have found this before i replied.
link (http://209.151.81.10/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3481&highlight=head)

Im wondering if the head would line up with Roller Rocker SR20's...
the 2000+ engines...

I doubt thats gonna work either. Mines a roller, and the only difference between mine and the non roller are the cams, buckets and shims.

it fits and it works. there is no question about it. i have lined it up. is the same drill as putting a b16 head on an ls block. so if someone else has actually tried the head swap and wants to say it doesnt fit i might be inclined to hear about it, but that isnt going to happen. can i get some people to back me here. when it comes to ve's i know what im doing.

i dont doubt you, its just what ive picked up from reading the thread i posted earlier.

but if it does infact work, then wouldnt that be GREAT news for everyone? then people can stop dreaming of getting a VE, and instead of going thru all the pain of swaping the full engine, just swap over the VE head?

what would be nice is, if anyone did have any pics to back all this up. Im sure people will judge for themselves.

where are these magical ve heads going to appear from? Its hard enough getting a entire VE let alone just the head itself.

The only way this would make any sense is to purchase a sr16ve and then swap the head onto a sr20de. It would still make less power because of the heavier crank and you would have slightly lower compression and you would lose the piston coolers and the better oil pump (I think it is better but not sure) and you would be best to face the head and the block to insure they are true and I wouldn't buy just a head because if probably came from a damaged engine and you have no clue as to what shape it is in before purchase. If you are an engine builder this might make some sense but otherwise why bother.

thats a tight picture steve

i may be pulling this outta my ass, but would it be possible to put the sr16ve head on a sr20de? the cams on the 20 and 16 are interchangeable right? *** if im not mistaken arent the sr16ve long blocks pretty reasonably priced?

while on the subject of swapping also can you use a de 2.0 crank and pistons etc on a sr16ve to increase displacement or do you hvae to use the 2.0 ve crank etc?

This in my opinion is the worst subject to talk about. Why you ask? Where the hell are you guys going to find a head, its hard enough just trying to get a motor. Also BIGTOM is right the head will go right on and if you have the skills you can even tap the oil feed on the block for the head.

Well if you guys are interested I have a head for a SR16VE complete with inj intake throttle body. Everything from head up if someone want to buy it, it will cost $1050 shipped to your door.

I am now waiting for the droves of people to say me me me.

Andreas Miko

so this hybrid would be very similar to a ls/vtec coversion? as far as tapping the block in all. my question is would it run with the b15 ecu and the MSD trigger switches? how reliable do you guys think this setup would really be? also what kinda power do you think it would make? as far as the crank, mines a 01 w/the 4 counterweight crank. yeah it would have lower compression and no oil coolers/better pump, but would they have that much affect? considering its a sr16ve head, wouldnt that bump the power a litte over a sr20ve head? im kinda actually condering this on my car, but im hesitant if its not gonna work and/or have enough power? what do you all think? please lemme know

hey Andreas - why dont you come down a bit on the head and take part in the first de/VeVL conversion?? also do you except credit cards? lol

Keep in mind that a SR20VE feels about the same as a DE below 5000 rpm and much better up high. The 16ve is gong to be slightly worse below 5000 and even better up top. With the 2001 ecu shutting things down at 6200rpm it would get pretty frustrating to drive IMHO.

it cuts out at 67-6800 rpms and the sr20ve (if im not mistaken) cuts out at 7000rpms. i would have 10:8.1 compression compared to the 11:1 of the ve. and being that it would the sr16ve cams that would bump horsepower a little too. as to the sr16ve and sr20ve heads how much different are they, besides maybe the valvetrain? what do u think?

you would be wasting your time. The VE ecu goes much higher than 7000 rpm, hell my ECU goes to 7500 stock

Yep if you do this, you WOULD have to get a JWT ECU, no doubt aboot it. :D