What sort of power (roughly) can i expect from the gt3037 mentioned at 1 bar as this is what my tial 40mm spring is rated at and will therefore be the lowest i can run it. Maybe i should have gone with a softer spring? This is on a sr20det with forged pistons etc.

Cheers all

Surry

I hope that you're talking about 1bar of boost, and not fuel. On one bar of fuel, you'd be a fool to invest in a GT3037. But I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you're speaking of 1bar of boost.
At about 15psi, with your fuel system able to keep up with the boost, you could expect between 290-350 whp. I could get more specific on horsepower, but you'd have to also get more specific with your mods.

-BEN

yes he is talking about boost at 1 bar becasue he mentions that his tial wastegate spring is rated at that..lol. In school they called these context clues. He is probably also running a GTIR motor because he is from europe, probably england since he said Cheers and his name is Surry

Hey Mr Blackbird,

I guess your a detective, working out that info from my post I am from the England I was talking 1 bar boost what can i say, and it is also actually a gtir i am running right again and it is in a gtir as well something from what i can tell u guys are not used to.

By the way if i list my mods maybe you could give a more acurate bhp baker

forged pistons JE 7.8 to 1 compression
Metal head gasket
long duration cams piper 285 u probably dont know these over there,
300 ZX AFM
Apexi boost controller
Apexi Fuel controller
550cc injectors
FSE fuel Reg
R33 Skyline FMIC
Uprated fuel pump
Gizmo stage 3 ecu upgrade (dont think you know?)
Will be setup on 98 ron fuel

plus bits and bobs like
knife edge crank,
lightweight flywheel
balanced rods etc

probably forgot summat but there you go

Cheers in advance

HA he is wrong 1 bar is 14.7psi! not 15psi!

i always did good at reading comprehension in school..lol

Originally posted by B_baker03

At about 15psi, with your fuel system...

About . at about 15psi, I'm not a dumbass when it comes to turbos. Just thought that I'd stick up for myself.

What manifold will this turbo fit? is it the gtir man, or will it fit the bb as well.

Brian

long duration cams piper 285 u probably dont know these over there, Gizmo stage 3 ecu upgrade (dont think you know?)

What kind of overlap do the cams have? Any adjustable cam gears?

Are there any links for Piper or Gizmo?

Originally posted by Yellow4g63
HA he is wrong 1 bar is 14.7psi! not 15psi!
Actually 1 bar = 14.5 psi....

Originally posted by Dshaft96
Actually 1 bar = 14.5 psi....

No 1 bar is atmospheric pressure which is 14.7 PSI

what civic dragon said.

But hey fellas, lets stay on task. this guy asked a question, and unless you have an answer, please don't post. It'll get the threadstarter's hopes up when he see's new posts, but he checks out only to find that it's a bunch of idiots arguing.

It sounds like you have an abundance of mods under your belt. My estimate would be probably right around 350 horse to the wheels with that FMIC. It sounds like you really put a lot of effort into your work. I applaud that man, great job!

No, 1 bar = .987 atm.

this sounds like a stupid question, but is the gt3037 a mitsubishi turbo? i'm just curious.

no, the 3037 is an HKS unit, at least they distribute it. I think that turbonetics makes the ball bearing center section.

AFAIK, Turbonetics doesn't make their own turbos. They use Garrett turbos with their own tricks added in. The HKS 3037 is a Garrett GT series turbo with their own custom compressor housing. But then again, I could be full of monkey shit.

Originally posted by 92SE-R
AFAIK, Turbonetics doesn't make their own turbos. They use Garrett turbos with their own tricks added in. The HKS 3037 is a Garrett GT series turbo with their own custom compressor housing. But then again, I could be full of monkey shit.

Close. Its a Garrett turbo, sold to HKS as a center-section (ballbearing t25) and compressor stage. HKS adds their own proprietary Turbine housing and sells it. The HKS turbine housing is very well-designed, and performs well. A common misconception is that the GTBB37 (incon, etc) turbos are the exact same as the gt3037, but without the nice HKS turbine housing. This is untrue, as the HKS 3037 has different turbine and compressor wheels (newer, more efficient aerodynamics). They do however have the good ballbearing center section. The HKS turbo really is as good as it is made out to be.

andris

Originally posted by B_baker03
no, the 3037 is an HKS unit, at least they distribute it. I think that turbonetics makes the ball bearing center section.

The tubonetics ballbearing center section is inferior to the Garrett ballbearing center section. They are not the same. The Garrett unit is a full ballbearing unit, whereas the turbonetics one has only one ballbearing (IIRC) and the others are normal.

andris

Correct on the bearings issue. turbonetics "ball bearing" is a POS when compared to the GT line of turbos. which are full ball bearing, but then again whats the price on the turbonetics unit compared to the GT series turbos or more specific the GT3037

Originally posted by 93BlackBird
Correct on the bearings issue. turbonetics "ball bearing" is a POS when compared to the GT line of turbos. which are full ball bearing, but then again whats the price on the turbonetics unit compared to the GT series turbos or more specific the GT3037

If you do some shopping, you can find the HKS GT3037 for around 2000 dollars. The Turbonetics ballbearing turbo is (i believe) around 13-1500 dollars. When you consider that the gt3037 kicks a t3/t04E's ass in every category, to me its a no-brainer. When you are turbocharging a car, and are looking for big power and response, why skimp on the most important part of the system? The cost difference to me is not enough to even consider the Turbonetics turbos. The Incon/garrett GTBB37 turbos are similarly priced to the Turbonetics ballbearing turbos, maybe a little more. the GTBB37 is superior to the turbonetics ballbearing t3/t04e, so based on price, you shouldn't even consider the turbonetics one. From there, it just becomes a decision of GTBB37 vs. HKS GT3037. Do you want to spend 500 dollars more for the holy grail of turbos, or are you content saving a little cash and still having a better turbo than a t3/t04e? I think the HKS turbo is worth the price premium over the GTBB37, but the GTBB37 is still a very good value.

Edit: I may be wrong about the price of the turbonetics BB turbo; I haven't looked it up in a while and it may be a little cheaper, making it more of an option, but my opinions still stand. (run-on sentence :) )
Andris