i have a 200sx ser with a g20 ecu and i was wondering if i could beat a 240sx in a 1/4i am not sure at the model type but i was wondering what my chances are thanks abe

Yes. 240sx's are heavier and are nearly the same HP. Smoke him and enjoy.

Yeah stock 240's with KA engine are dogs. Treat them as such.

poor KA....it's a truck motor >:^(

KA24DE aren't bad motors... they got a bad reputation from the press because of the original KA24E motors used in the early 89-90 240's. Those were a little rough and very "truck engine" like. The later KA24DE's (91+) are a much smoother motor at least when they're in a good state of tune. Almost as smooth as a SR20DE.

As for beating one... a lot depends on the year.

If it's a 89-90 then it's only putting out 140hp. Enjoy.

If it's a 91+ then it's putting out 155hp, has more tq down low, is rwd, only weights a few hundred pounds more and if I remember correctly has better gearing. Hard to say who'd win. A lot I guess would depend on the state of tune for both cars and the drivers. It's certainly not a sure thing that you'll win.

They are great cars 240's no doubt. Excellent handling. My ex-girlfreind had bought one, cause she wanted rwd, stick, and reliable. That being said...

We obtained a nice 92 coupe in perfect shape 110k. Good mantinence records. I tuned it up, plugs, wires, distro, ff, timing, air filter, fluids, cleaned tb, and my pop charger. It still accelerated like a pig. Might have touched up a mostly stock lowport.

Enjoy, cause 92 would be one of the fastest years, cause of diminishing cam profiles, (all 94's were convertible with automatic) and the impending obdII.

Better hope they haven't dropped in an SR20DET. ;)

uh duh

Originally posted by Yosho
KA24DE aren't bad motors...

Agreed.


The later KA24DE's (91+) are a much smoother motor at least when they're in a good state of tune. Almost as smooth as a SR20DE.

Not a chance in hell! I had a '91 240SX fastback, I loved that car with all my heart. But, 1 of the 2 gripes I ever had with that car was the lack of any hint of smoothness in the motor. (the second gripe was the stupid automatic seatbelts).


If it's a 91+ then it's putting out 155hp, has more tq down low, is rwd, only weights a few hundred pounds more and if I remember correctly has better gearing.

160 lb/ft of torque. I don't know about the gearing though, pretty sure its the same though.

I have to agree on the roughness of the engine. The five that i have ridden in have all been rough. I just sold my 93 and miss it already, it just wasn't the right car for me at this time

If you want a good track car, the 240sx is hard to beat. A bunch of guys and I rented out a small road course(~1.1 miles long). My buddy Brian had a s14 with Tein coilovers, bolt-on's, and running 225 width street tires. He turned in mostly 1:02 lap times. I have a Truechoice setup, and I was running 205 width street tires. I'm probably putting down a about 190whp. He's probably 200 CRANK hp. And I was only able to turn in a 1:04. Granted, he's been out to the track before and it was my frist time; even so, I'd be hard pressed to make up 2 seconds. So I have about ~20 whp advantage, and 300lbs less weight and he still beat me. RWD and a great suspension setup make for a great car!

Khiem

I won't argue against the 240 on the handling tip, or the looks tip. RWD is nice too. I would totally have bought one if I hought I could prep it nicely.

Unfortunately, you really can't have one with a det swap, nice suspension, and good brakes for the 3g's sport compact advertised.

The KA is a very coarse engine, with alot of grunt. Not smooth at all. I don't like it. On the other hand the SR is considered a thrashy little engine itself. The SR is butter smooth in comparison if you ask me.

Kheim; On a short course like you are referring, the main advantage would be the gobs of torque. Even w/o an LSD, the 240 would be powering out of turns with lots of bite, esp on wide tires.
The SER would be hard pressed to find an advantage, chassis is not as stiff. Like you said all mods/drivers being equal, or close; the S-chassis would take the day.

Yeah, it was definitely a handling course. I probably only hit about ~80-85 mph or so. Spent most of the course in 2nd. But, as far as torque is concerned, the t25 helps out a lot with that! There are a couple of sweepers which I was powering out of in 2nd..... well, more like spinning the tires off trying to power out. I wonder how long my lsd will work.....

In SCC the $3k was just for the car and swap. I think they got the car for $800?

The 240s do have a superior chassis and suspension setup, and of course, RWD!

Khiem

Originally posted by spdracerUT


The 240s do have a superior chassis and suspension setup, and of course, RWD!

Khiem

That sums up what I miss the most about it. Not to mention all the looks I used to get in it.
http://www.tcnj.edu/~sysant2/cars/240sxrearex.jpg

SERseeker39 from this board bought my 240 from me. Rest assured, if he ever decides to sell it, I will be buying it back!

Can't wait till i have my det and race my friend with his det 240sx

I think the S13 is really good looking too, but I think the b14 is about as good.

I really like the ugly duckling look of the classic. Notice which forum I am posting this in. The fun factor is too high to care anyway.

I beat a 240 when I was stock.
Should be NO problem at all unless you smoke the tires or somethin' crazy like that. Go 4 it.

you may be able to beat the 240 in a 1/4 but can you beat him at a drift competition? My friend has a sick ass 240 dumped on its as with tein coils and blitz nur spec exhuast. plus other shit. anyway, hes got the 91 se and it drifts like a king. not too well in the midrange power becuase of its gearing but still a very chill car. underestimated by many. has anyone ever asked if your 200's were rear wheel drive? i get that shit all the time. "its a 200sx not a 240 shit for brains" is my simple reply to those more ignorant than myself.

who said anything about drifting?? ya its cool, but its not the subject here. and for those people who are more ignorant than you: the 240SX is called a 200SX in Austrailia, that might cause confusion. Just because someone asks a question you think is stupid doesnt mean they're "shit for brains", try to educate them instead of dissin em.

Matt

just to let you know. silvias are also called 200sx's in other nations. i wasnt in australia when mostly 40 year old men were inquiring about my drivetrain layout. So im not ignorant, and don't assume that i didnt know about its multiple identities.