: Best setups??
NightRiderSE-R 10-03-2002, 12:23 AM Whats a good turbo kit for around 6,000 total? i took out a personal loan to better establish my credit *** i plan on buying a house in a year or so. might as well use this money for a kit.
i was thinking:
t28 gtir kit
370cc injectors
4 bar jwt ecu
bored maf
fmic
3" downpipe
3" exhaust
stage 2 - o2 induction Intake Manifold
JWT S3-S4's?? or HKS cams
fidenza flywheel
Act clutch
pullies
could all this be achieved with 6,000? any other suggestions are good, *** i could prolly get more for my money doing some other setup??
TIA
kenley_ser 10-04-2002, 12:39 AM I think that with that much money you should get a bigger and better turbo(GT3037) everything else you listed and you should still have a little bit of money left to give me...:D
Anyway I paid about 2000 for everything including another engine doing everything myself, I have everything you listed except:
T28
(got a T25)
4 bar jwt ecu
(don't know I just got the 370cc turbo program don't know what bar it is)
bored maf
(using stock)
fmic
(went TMIH)
3" downpipe
(2.5 instead)
3" exhaust
(2.25 instead)
stage 2 - o2 induction Intake Manifold
(sounds good)
JWT S3-S4's?? or HKS cams
(heard these are good)
fidenza flywheel
(the lighter the better)
...not just on flywheels and cars
Act clutch
(not yet)
pullies
(nope)
Ok so maybe I didn't even get half of the stuff you have I'm pretty sure you should have enough with 6000 and if you have any extra again my paypal account is kenley_ser@yahoo.com
Good Luck
kenley_ser 10-04-2002, 12:40 AM damn sorry for the long post...:cool:
ITR_KILLR 10-04-2002, 01:16 AM INCON GTBB37 turbo-$1600
GTIR manifold-$330
custom int WG-$175
Downpipe-$150
I/C & piping-$1000
50# inj-$300
fuel rail-$130
JWT ecu w/4bar prog-$550
Walbro 255-$125
Profec B-$320
FPR-$150
=$4830 for @350++ (I mean plus) whp
spdracerUT 10-04-2002, 01:43 AM Damn, with $6k, you can do a hell of a lot! How much power do you want and what kind of driveability are you looking for?
With a t28 setup, you'll come in way below $6k, which is a good thing if you haven't upgraded your brakes yet. I wouldn't even think turbo until you've also upgraded the brakes. I smoked by brakes STOCK. Now imagine what you can do to your brakes with the turbo!
If you go with the t28 AND cams, I'd say step up to the 50lb injectors and a bigger MAF(Cobra or ZTT) and fuel pump; with the addition of the intake manifold, I'd say it's manditory. And don't forget to include the costs of gauges, boost controller, turbo timer, oil lines, fittings, motor mounts, clutch, gaskets... all the little things :)
Khiem
CowboyDren 10-04-2002, 01:51 AM And that extra $1100 or so will go very nicely towards incedental expenses like, "Oh S#!T," and, "I guess that's important, huh?" I'd talk to Hot Shot about a pipe kit, though. Seems to me that the DET install kit with one of their midpipes for low-port engines shouldn't be very expensive (~$1100), and it'd have a 3" downpipe included. Their DET kit is designed to work with T25s, so a T28 is no big deal.
I like the 370s with the four-bar program; it offers a LOT of flexibility down the road and allows for a bit more tuning, I think, with an adjustable FPR. You may also want to investigate using a Cobra or 300ZX MAF sensor instead of boring the stocker, depending on what a local machine shop would charge to do the labor. A bigger fuel pump is going to be a must, though.
civicdragon 10-04-2002, 02:22 AM Originally posted by CowboyDren
And that extra $1100 or so will go very nicely towards incedental expenses like, "Oh S#!T," and, "I guess that's important, huh?" I'd talk to Hot Shot about a pipe kit, though. Seems to me that the DET install kit with one of their midpipes for low-port engines shouldn't be very expensive (~$1100), and it'd have a 3" downpipe included. Their DET kit is designed to work with T25s, so a T28 is no big deal.
whats with the Hot Shot kit all of a sudden, I thought you were a fan of the NPR intercoolers
ITR_KILLR 10-04-2002, 01:10 PM If you want simplicity, you could always buy an F-MAX st 2 and call it a day?:D
blairellis 10-04-2002, 01:18 PM Originally posted by ITR_KILLR
INCON GTBB37 turbo-$1600
GTIR manifold-$330
custom int WG-$175
Downpipe-$150
I/C & piping-$1000
50# inj-$300
fuel rail-$130
JWT ecu w/4bar prog-$550
Walbro 255-$125
Profec B-$320
FPR-$150
=$4830 for @350++ (I mean plus) whp
you MIGHT be able to squeeze in the new JWT dual disc clutch and flywheel package in there...for that much HP id highly suggest getting it as it is by FAR the most streetable clutch made for our cars (that i know of)
CowboyDren 10-05-2002, 10:10 PM civicdragon: Not sure I'd call myself a "fan," but it's certainly an option if you're going high-HP (350+ or so?) and need lots and lots and lots of cooling capacity for thirtysix dollars. The HS kit, though, is a complete installation kit, with piping, couplers, and an FMIC core that's quite large enough for 300+ HP. It's too elegant to ignore. Though ITR has a good point, too...just don't expect installation instructions that are actually useful. ;)
civicdragon 10-05-2002, 10:39 PM Originally posted by CowboyDren
civicdragon: Not sure I'd call myself a "fan," but it's certainly an option if you're going high-HP (350+ or so?) and need lots and lots and lots of cooling capacity for thirtysix dollars. The HS kit, though, is a complete installation kit, with piping, couplers, and an FMIC core that's quite large enough for 300+ HP. It's too elegant to ignore. Though ITR has a good point, too...just don't expect installation instructions that are actually useful. ;)
So with a setup like the one I'm doing:
T28
S4's with overlap optimized for high end
TTZ maf
JWT 3 or 4 bar setup
UR 2/4 Pulley set
2.5 inch turbo back
Injectors around 444cc
and other necessary parts
Would the NPR intercoolers be too much?
CowboyDren 10-05-2002, 10:44 PM Maybe. It's a judgement call, but you're probably not going to exceed 350 WHP with that configuration, and I'd be perfectly happy with an HKS, Spearco, or Forge IC at the size that the HS kit uses. On the other hand, if you can get an NPR FMIC cheap, and have the pipes bent (filter to MAF, MAF to compressor, compressor to FMIC, FMIC to TB [with BOV/CBV fitting], and downpipe) for less than the HS kit...go for it.
Forge FMICs are pretty cheap, too, by the way, and about the size of that HKS. Could have possibilities...
civicdragon 10-05-2002, 11:13 PM Damn I was trying to get out a little cheaper, but i guess I'll go for the glammour and glitter of one of the other IC's
NightRiderSE-R 10-06-2002, 10:01 AM hey guys, ive been at work so much i had barely any time to check this thread.
i gave andreas miko a call and we talked for a half hour on a best setup. im going with:
aveneir longblock
t3/t04e
f-max manifold
50# injectors
300zx maf
c1 cams (valve springs and retainers included)
stage 2 intake manifold
jwt ecu 4 bar
tial wastegate
fidenza flywheel
act clutch
FMIC
3" all the way back
boost controller
3 gauge pillar pod
and a lifetime gift certificate for tires :D
dre said ill be putting down anywhere from 380-420 hp to the wheels, with 11 sec timeslips. still streetable.
Victorious 10-06-2002, 04:08 PM And how much did all of this cost? Oh yeah, don't forgfet boost controller, turbo, timer, motor mounts, and bigger brakes.
CowboyDren 10-06-2002, 08:17 PM Streetable is relative. Ask a guy who's used to commuting to work in a '78 Chevy C20 how well an '82 Z28 handles, and he'll say "Fantastic!" Ask Michael Schumaker the same question, and you'll get a very different answer.
There have been more than a few people that built 400WHP SE-Rs only to sell it because it wasn't safe on the streets anymore. Don't even think about trying to drive in the rain (unless you're suicideal, in which case, a 400WHP SE-R is perfect..).
scmser 10-06-2002, 10:48 PM For your sake, please factor in large brakes, good pads (Axxis Ultimates), a roll bar or cage, full brake fluid flush, etc.
This is serious HP, you can easily wreck your car, kill yourself and others.
Yes, streetable IS a relative term. Wait until your in stop and go traffic with the clutch required to hold that kind of HP, then your perception of "streetable' might change.
NightRiderSE-R 10-06-2002, 11:40 PM sorry guys, i should have mentioned that by streetable, i mean driving it to tracks. i didnt mean this was my daily driver street racing car. i know all about that kinda power, and how to handle it.
big brakes, helmet and roll cage are being ordered as well.
CowboyDren 10-07-2002, 09:54 AM Oh! :eek: That changes everything. :D
ITR_KILLR 10-07-2002, 01:57 PM dre said ill be putting down anywhere from 380-420 hp to the wheels, with 11 sec timeslips. still streetable.
at what psi?????
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