: Weird redtop engine?
12.30se-r92 11-23-2002, 02:11 AM Ok 1st of all i did do a search and only came up with some post by CanadianG who also asked about a jdm redtop sr20de lowport na which helped but i duno if its the same engine.Ok so tonight i was at a local car meet a buddy of mine witha 93se-r had blow his engine so then i see him coming up to me and he sayed he had gotten a new engine now im like cool let me check it out.It was a redtop i was like whao when i saw it he sayed it was outa a 200sx from australia and it had more hp than a jdm engine which he sayed is only 155hp and that this one was suppose to have 175hp im like dam never heard of this engine but those numbers sound kick ass.He sayed it had cost him 1100 installed and he ran a 14.7 with it earlier that day on stock wheels and a aem cai hooked up on it.Also he sayed he thought it needed a diff ecu cause it was a little weird and had no o2sensor.A assuie engine outa a 200sx redtop na lowport engine does anyone know or ever heard of this engine and if so what are the specs thanx.:cool:
mpg9999 11-23-2002, 02:38 AM I could be wronge, but I dont think thats out of an australian 200SX, as the australian 200SX is a Silvia, which means its a RWD SR20DET.
-Mike
i call bullshit!
i believe the australian 200SX are all S body cars meaning RWD your buddy put a RWD engine into his FWD sentra????
12.30se-r92 11-23-2002, 02:43 AM Well it was a redtop sr20 n/a not just the maroon valve cover either the injectors looked like a dark dull yet shiny greyish color never seen that ** i think it wasnt from australia but thats what they just told him.
Sr20 B12 11-23-2002, 03:05 AM The Luciano is the only USDM 200sx looking car in Australia with a FWD Sr20. All 200sx's in Australia are S bodied cars (S12, S13, S14, ect..).
With the times 1/4 time he ran and the ecu problem, I would say it's a VE with a painted vavle cover (unless some came red in AU). But then again you say it's a low port engine. Hum......... Ask him to look at the regular sr20 crank pully compared to the one on his new engine and see if they are different.
I say Pictures are needed for this one.
Andreas Miko 11-23-2002, 08:45 AM Easy answer. This motor is a motor from England or Europe. All these motors came out of a plant in Portugal. Some of these motors made their way to Japan because their were to many of these motors for what they needed in the European market. The head # is 89J. It has sodium filled valves and is a 10 to 1 motor. This motor came out of a late model P10s and P11s. The motor has very large cams in it also. The injs are made by lucas and are a dark grey color, these injs are 259cc. The reason your friend could not find the O2 sensor is because the o2 sensor on this motor is place under the motor by the black lower oil pan. I have had 2 of these motors and they do run realy good so treat the motor good. This motor also like NOS and is less likely to burn valves becase of the sodium filled valves.
SE-Rican 11-23-2002, 09:04 AM I know two people who own these motors. It is a fact that they are out there. I have a friend who has one sitting on a engine stand and the other is about to swap it into a Classic. Very nice looking motor. The VC is just like the one on a red top DET.
charlie2020 11-23-2002, 02:31 PM The Red Top NA FWD SR20DE is the 10:1 UK engine. Very rare I have only seen a few of them and the ususally cost $100 or so more than standard SR20DE. The guy (sorry) with the green 200SX SE-R from Sleepermotorsports has one it a UK engine, correct me if i'm wrong.
12.30se-r92 11-23-2002, 06:42 PM ok so if it is a european engine is it worth 1100 swaped and does it put out the 175hp?thanxs
SENTRASER 11-23-2002, 07:45 PM I would say its not a lowport if you can see the injectors on the top, its a high port. I would also be skeptical about 175hp, maybe 155, if it has diffrent cams.
~Ryan
gsr20det 03-13-2003, 03:34 AM How's this for a red top FWD SR20DE:
Red Valve Cover, high port intake manifold w/ no EGR (rare for imported motors to have EGR), numbers cast into the side of the head are "96J" above the front cover, and "UK 96J" cast in the head behind the diustributor, just below that is a "101" engraved and a "1R" cast. The injectors are grey and use a connector like the metal clipped one for the detonation sensor. The detonation sensor has a piece of separate harness that runs from it (using the metal clip as a US SR20) to a another click-in type of connector like the O2 sensor uses. There are a few other minor differences in the wiring harnes, but I've never looked at other imported harnesses for differences. The oil pressure sending unit is a larger unit like found on the DETs, but without the oil cooler. I don't have a good enough light to see into the cylinders to see if the pistons are flat tops or not, but I'm assuming they are. The engine is out of a car with an auto tranny and the cams looked cherry. I feel a little bad knowing that JWT S4s are going in, I'd love to see what this motor does straight up.
The engine is for my SE-R Cup car that I had was running too much timing and ended up chewing through a set of spark plugs during a qualifying session. I ended up with 150 psi in 3 cylinders and 125 psi in #4 on Saturday. After the second race on Sunday, #4 was down to 110 psi.
I'll take some pics and post them of the new motor and of the #4 piston in the old motor.
Tom
CanadianG 03-13-2003, 04:30 PM Originally posted by SENTRASER
I would say its not a lowport if you can see the injectors on the top, its a high port. I would also be skeptical about 175hp, maybe 155, if it has diffrent cams.
~Ryan
Its not a highport motor but a Low port motor that I saw. I have come to a consensus that its somewhere between 150-160hp. The only NA non VVL engine higher that this is the Primera autech engine which is not a red top
b12sr20ve 03-14-2003, 01:25 AM so how much HP does the UK red top produces??
ive seen one on sentra.net
SENTRASER 03-18-2003, 01:47 AM http://www.se-r-list.org/new-archives/Week-of-Mon-20020211/002639.html
Courtesy of AzteckSER
AztekSE-R 03-18-2003, 02:06 AM Guys what all did these two heads come on? I am looking for a JDM or UK SR20 10:1 but cant find much info on these heads.
Are these heads Only 10:1????
AztekSE-R 03-19-2003, 12:16 AM Cars with 10:1's now how can identify them :D
Nissan 100Nx GTi
Nissan Sunny GTi
Nissan Almera 2.0 GTi
Nissan Almera Tino 2.0
Primera HNP11
Primera 2.0e HP10
Primera 2.0eGT (5 door) FHP10
Primera 2.0GT FHP11
Primera 2.0Te HP11
Primera 2.0T4 HNP10
Primera Wagon WHNP11
Nissan Primera Wagon 2.0 WHP11
Prairie Liberty GF-PNM12
Autech Sunny Lucino Version B13
Autech Lucino Version 3 door N14
Autech Pulsar SERIE Version N14
Pulsar GTi Autech version N14
Autech Primera 2.0e HP10
Tommy Kaira ZZ-S
Tommy Kaira ZZ
Nissan Avenir GF-PW11
Nissan PRESEA 1.8L R11
CanadianG 03-19-2003, 07:27 PM Originally posted by AztekSE-R
Guys what all did these two heads come on? I am looking for a JDM or UK SR20 10:1 but cant find much info on these heads.
Are these heads Only 10:1????
I thought the heads were the same except the valves. Different block and pistons?
SENTRASER 03-19-2003, 07:56 PM Originally posted by Andreas Miko
The head # is 89J. It has sodium filled valves and is a 10 to 1 motor. This motor came out of a late model P10s and P11s. The motor has very large cams in it also. The injs are made by lucas and are a dark grey color, these injs are 259cc.
AztekSE-R 03-25-2003, 02:52 AM TTT
Come on guys less than a week till i get my engine and i think im on the right track to getting a 10:1
AztekSE-R 03-25-2003, 03:33 AM 53J IS US AND JDM (will be found on all highport motors US, JDM and Blue Bird Turbo motors. The BB motor being diffrent with SODIUM filled valves that have a 7mm stem verses a non turbo head that has a standard 6mm valve stem)
58Y = SR18DE
64J = SR18DE low-port motor
58Y SR18DE JDM highport.
64J SR18DE JDM lowport.
94Y SR20DE US lowport.HP10 1998cc 2.0ltr. 3.39x3.39 in./ 9.5:1 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm 132 ft-lbs @ 4,800 rpm Yes FWD High Port / 7500Rpm Redline (95 Degree Angled Intake) Intake Manifold Straight, Head #94Y
53J SR20DE US highport.
89J SR20DE UK lowport .The head # is 89J. It has sodium filled valves and is a 10 to 1 motor. This motor came out of a late model P10s and P11s. The motor has very large cams in it also. The injs are made by lucas and are a dark grey color, these injs are 259cc
96J SR20DE UK highport. Red top de w/ gray injector tops (UK 101 96J head) numbers cast into the side of the head are "96J" above the front cover, and "UK 96J" cast in the head behind the diustributor, just below that is a "101" engraved and a "1R" cast
53C SR20DE JDM Pulsar GTIR.
78E - Larger Exhaust Valves
79E - Larger Exhaust Valves
52F - Larger Exhaust Valves
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