These two calipers are different, but will the Japan calipers fit on the US produced spindles? I have a set of the US pads (which is what I have) and Japan pads in front of me, and the Japan ones have quite a bit more pad surface area. The rotors aren't any different are they? Cause everyone seems to want you to specify when buying them. I'm trying to upgrade braking as much as possible while still keeping the legal overall rotor diameter size in IT-S. Finally, is there any difference between the ABS/non-ABS on the Japan/US models? Such as ABS/Japan or ABS/US or non-ABS/Japan or non-ABS/US?

Thanks.

Japan = NX2000 = AD22VF
US = SE-R = AD18V

I know the books call out a Japanese made SE-R, but they are wrong. This is well documented and I used to work in the aftermarket replacement parts industry. The problem is that there are only a small handful of folks producing the parts catalogs and they are all wrong.

For ITS you must retain the stock AD18V set-up.

Then how would the guys who have a Japan-produced SE-R be legal?

There are no Japanese produced SE-Rs, they were all made in the states. Some NXs were made in Japan.

Originally posted by Fast91SER
There are no Japanese produced SE-Rs, they were all made in the states. Some NXs were made in Japan.
All the NX's were made in Japan.

There are Japan made SE-R B13 Sentra's, I went to ask for a coolant temp sensor for Japan made car (91 Sentra SE-R) and a US made car (91 Sentra SE-R) and the dude had two diff color sensor the JDM one was BLUE and US one was RED, I was like what that looks just like the temp sensor that came on my Avenir. Unless thge Nissan parts guy just goofed up.

Anyways then why do the ask if your car US or Japan made? Its indictaed by the first letter/number of the VIN.

There are no Japan builit SE-R's. Even the Nissan Database is messed up Charile. The Japan sensor is for the NX2000, my best guess. Trust me when I say there are no Japan built SE-R's.
~~Ryan

they ask whether your car is built in japan or u.s.a. built ***** that is how they categorized.
haven't u noticed when u buy suspension parts, they ask u if it's a 1.6L or 1.8L? (example) suspension has nothing to do with size of engine but that is how part places categorize their database.

Some of the places see the car WITH ABS as the AD22VFs, and w/o ABS with the AD18V's. :rolleyes:

Look Guys, They way it works is like this...
Nissan is getting ready to produce some cars. So they release some parts info to the Aftermarket and their suppliers so that they can start making parts before the cars hit the markets. This info (pre-production info) is most times what gets put into catalogs. Some time between the time nissan released its pre-production parts info and the time they actually started producing the car they changed their mind about where it was to be built and how it was supposed to be configured.

Unfortunately the parts info stays the same cause its already been printed. Its to late to change it now.

BTW, There are Japan built "SE-R's". Just not in the states. In other words there were some built in japan, but they were never imported to the states.

Rick

Originally posted by Rocketman
Look Guys, They way it works is like this...
Nissan is getting ready to produce some cars. So they release some parts info to the Aftermarket and their suppliers so that they can start making parts before the cars hit the markets. This info (pre-production info) is most times what gets put into catalogs. Some time between the time nissan released its pre-production parts info and the time they actually started producing the car they changed their mind about where it was to be built and how it was supposed to be configured.

Unfortunately the parts info stays the same cause its already been printed. Its to late to change it now.

BTW, There are Japan built "SE-R's". Just not in the states. In other words there were some built in japan, but they were never imported to the states.

Rick

that doesn't explain why they ask if your car is japanese or american built when you go to the dealership to buy oem parts. if i were to guess, i'd say they have a universal parts list for all the countries, and since some nissan cars are japanese built and sold in the US, they ask you to give your vin number so they can identify which country your car was built in.

Originally posted by Rocketman
BTW, There are Japan built "SE-R's". Just not in the states. In other words there were some built in japan, but they were never imported to the states.Rick

If there are, please enlighten us and provide some evidence of this.

The only B13's that were made in Japan were Sunny's. They did not even have a 2.0 SR20DE available in the B13 in Japan. All B13 SE-R's where made right here in the USA @ the Smyrna, Tenn plant. The Mexican plant made B13 Tsuru 2000's. They were the closest thing to a B13 SE-R since they had the SR20DE available.

As a matter of fact, there is a guy who actually exported a B13 SE-R to Japan because they never were built there.

apoligies all around.
I should have been more specific and said there were b13's produced in japan but none of them were imported here from factories in japan.

In other words, the chassis' were built in japan. They may not have had the same specifications, and they may not have had the same engines. But none the less, they were never imported to the states from any japanese factories.

BTW, If you think about it, the explanation i gave would give reason for the dealers to have the same screwed up parts lists. Nissan releases data to everyone that they get there parts supplied. Keep in mind that nissan doesn't make every part on the car. I know for a fact, that calsonic is a large supplier to the nissan factories.

So Nissan says hey we want x quantity of calipers supplied to us from you guys to fit these vehicles. They get that supply from them, write the parts catalogues for the dealers and aftermarket, then decide they want to use that x number of calipers on the NX's only instead of the Nx's and SE-R's.

The catalogues are already written before or as the car is being produced. It was simply a matter of a late run production change. Wouldn't suprise me at all if you could find a prototype, that it would have the AD22VF brakes on it. Of course all those prototypes have surely been crushed by now.

Just a thought.
Rick

EDIT for spelling, grammar etc....

Just to add fuel to the fire, there are SE-Rs in Taiwan. But you can rest assured, your SE-R was made by some good ole boys in Smyrna. :)

Originally posted by Calum
Just to add fuel to the fire, there are SE-Rs in Taiwan. But you can rest assured, your SE-R was made by some good ole boys in Smyrna. :)

How'd they get there? And your talking about B13's right?

By boat? *duck*

I have no idea how they got there. One owner has posted here in the past though, that's the only reason I know they're there. Here's the thread: http://new.sr20deforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29157

*edit*
Here's a link for one for sale right now in Taiwan. Note the engine is specified to be a 2 liter. It is an SE-R, it is not in North America. The mind wobbles. No pics, sorry.

http://tw.pageuser.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/1105116789?u=%3akun5898

Uh, the SE-R in Taiwan was probably brought over there by a US service man or woman. Don't forget we send our finest over there and the military will indeed transport your car.

There are no Japanese built SE-Rs.

There are Japanese built B13s sold in the US - just not SE-Rs.

Rocketman's explanation is spot on.

Its not just one SE-R George, its a couple hundred. Given that there is no large military base there, the best bet is that it was Nissan that brought them there. As to where they were made, only Nissan knows.