Well after picking up my $1200 93 classic about three months ago, it's been through a lot. I'm about $4K into it right now but that including the car, paint and body work, Tsuru kit, all tune-up items, hyperco's and AGX, all new suspension rubber and hardware, AD22VF upgrade, brake lines, Poweslot rotors all around, SE-L rims, and I fixed my 5th gear pop-out.

So I took it down to the dyno last Saturday to get a baseline pull. It did have a HKS intake but everything else was stock. I was expecting to get 120-125, but my results surpassed my expectations. My car made 136whp/123 torque. WOHOOOO! And that's with 135K miles! My classic is making more peak power than my SE-L (135whp/125torque) that has a AEM CAI, 2 pulley set, and a 92 intake cam.

I'll try to post some pics by next week so you guys can check out my new daily driver. Yes....the SE-L stays at home waiting for track days :)

Martin

136hp at the wheels, with just an HKS intake? Did you dyno it more than once? That sounds way too high. That's I/H/E and other goodies territory. Not saying that I don't believe you, but I'd be questioning those results with such limited work done to the motor.

possibly a really high carbon buildup? i dunno thats really wierd... but hats off to ya on the restoration :)

Is that corrected? Does your car have a JDM swap, maybe with some mystery cams? That is some insanly high hp for a stock motor. Why cant this happen to me!!! crappy motor...

Those are pretty high numbers...but they are nice! Get the usual i/h/e and dyno again :cool:

Originally posted by mpg9999
Is that corrected? Does your car have a JDM swap, maybe with some mystery cams? That is some insanly high hp for a stock motor. Why cant this happen to me!!! crappy motor...

mike...we just need to get your engine fixed...it will be ok buddy :)

The way they dyno at R&D is w/ 3 pulls at once, Martin's number's where produced on the final pull.

The project Classic Car looked really bad when he bought it , After a few months, now it looks like he just took it home from the factory.
Very good restoration job.

Tevs

I got 132 on the first and second pull and on the third is when the car hit 136. Believe me I questioned the dyno myself. The dyno-day was held by some guys on the B15 boards and the SR20'ed B15's didn't get my kind of numbers, so I know that the dyno wasn't off.

The car has the original USDM motor and it does not have cams or an ECU. Maybe I just got lucky:D

Thanks for the props Tevs.....I promise I'll post some pics of my new baby soon. Now I'm off to break of some Honda's hehe.

Martin

Good Job bro! Those are very impressive numbers.

Well there are factory freaks. My SE-R (with a PR CAI and 17 degrees timing) made 123hp and 123ft/lbs at the wheels. The timing did it all, and I know it. The CAI felt like nothing when I put it on, and took it off. So yeah, I have a 145ft/lbs of torque SR20 with just timing as a mod. Hehe

doesn't what gear you dyno it in also affect numbers. either way, those are some bad ass numbers. i need to dyno my peice of crap.

All of the pulls that I've ever done at R&D have been done in third gear. And here are the exact number from all three pulls.

1st: 134.5hp/112.5 torque

2nd: 133.6hp/113.9 torque

3rd: 136.2hp/123.4 torque

The HP is all pretty much the same, but I wonder why there's such a big jump in torque:confused:

These runs were all done with 17 degrees of timing, TPS at 0.50, and B14 wheels. Wierd but I'm not complaining:D

Martin

This is just more evidence to support our (Luis and I) theory that '93 SR20's are the best. :D

Originally posted by RollcageSR20
This is just more evidence to support our (Luis and I) theory that '93 SR20's are the best. :D


:rolleyes: :D ;)

i thought you generaly did pull in 4th gear?

It was my understanding that your supposed to dyno in whatever gear is closest to a 1:1 ratio, which would be fourth gear at .975 (third gear is 1.286).

Originally posted by cranium
i thought you generaly did pull in 4th gear?

I read a article I believe on SE-R.net that Mike K. did. He recomends a 4th. gear pull.

You want the dyno pull to be done in whichever gear is closest to 1:1 ratio in order to get the most realistic results. On most 5spds (including the SE-R), this is 4th gear. Any lower gear ratio (e.g. 3rd) will give slightly lower results. Any higher ratio (e.g. 5th) will give slightly optimisic results. The difference is very slight either way. It will only be about +/- 1% to 2% in the reading.

Andrew

Well.... with such good results....
What type of fuel did ya use? Octane Wise?
Also... the outside temp. and humidity could of affected it.. and the overall engine temperature may have affected it.

(like has anyone noticed when you first start your car, and for about 5-10 minutes, it has a really slow response in cold weather? liek in colorado? Then after about 15-20 minutes the response is a hell of alot faster and excelerates faster. (Auto tranny) > maybe.... your engine was at it's top temp. and ran at it's highest. :) )

Originally posted by RollcageSR20
This is just more evidence to support our (Luis and I) theory that '93 SR20's are the best. :D

You are correct, sir. :)

Originally posted by PrOxLaMuS©
Also... the outside temp. and humidity could of affected it.. and the overall engine temperature may have affected it.

Hello? It was the third dyno pull, made within (most likely) minutes of the first two. Those are variables that would not have any affect on the run.

At all.