: Can anyone else induce massive oversteer?
VaNXman 03-08-2003, 04:00 AM OK when I installed prokits on my car, it became a tail wagging machine. If you are going fast and you do something stupid, the assend comes slips first, it is awesome. The best way is to go into a corner way to fast and trailbrake. This produces oversteer so crazy that both throttle and opposite lock are needed to get it to come back. All I have done to it is springs shocks and wheels/tires.
On a side note, my friends stock 98 Contour SE is just as crazy. All you have to do is let off harshly in mid corner. He bought the car from his Grandma, and it would be dangerous in her hands (especially the way she drives), that is how crazy it is.
SE no R 03-08-2003, 10:23 AM OK, as the driver of a 99 Contour SE I have to chime in here. The 'Tour is a good handler, especially for it's size and yes you can hang out the back end if not careful. I've never hung mine out in the dry but I've never really tried either. there is something rediculousy fun about hanging out the back end of a fwd car though. If he hasn't already, have your friend check out contour.org and fordcontour.org, both have good information and some good people on them.
97pocketrocket 03-08-2003, 12:59 PM Every Ford I ever owned or drove (that was stock) loved to fishtail around like that, long as they were treated nice they were ok, but that tail flipping scared the crap out of me in a bad situation as it was almost unpredictible...on a side note, my old 92 Mazda Protege (which I still feel was the best handling car I ever owned) would do the same thing but was much more subdued...go figure, Mazda and Ford sleep together, heh
Its311Pete 03-09-2003, 09:17 AM I got Gen 2 Hypercos on AGX's . I can't say the car is oversteer happy but i can induce it, much like OEM setup just not as much.
All I do is let off gas in middle of the corner and here come oversteer. I love Exit ramps :D :D
'92 w/car seat 03-09-2003, 11:07 AM Autocrossing (is that a word?) with oversteer= FUN!!!!!
I've got mine setup that way just to keep from going off course. I'm constantly crossing the threshold of traction and lose control. Oversteer has saved my butt too many times to count. Yes I know I'm not suppose to push the car beyond it's limit, but how many of us haven't. Now be honest. :)
VaNXman 03-09-2003, 06:03 PM OK, as the driver of a 99 Contour SE I have to chime in here. The 'Tour is a good handler, especially for it's size and yes you can hang out the back end if not careful.
My friends car is exactly the same, except it is an auto (bought from grandmother remeber?). Anyway, it only oversteers when he tells it to, but it never understeers, I am really impressed with that car. He can get it ridiculously sideways in the dry.
My car is the same way, it wont come out unless you tell it to, or you do something really stupid. I have never done that before ;). Also I think I remeber hearing that the NX2000 is a little more sideways happy then the Classic. What about the 200SX? It has a similar rear suspenion as the Spev V doesnt it? I heard the Spev will not oversteer at all, it just lifts a tire.
sakerocket1 03-09-2003, 06:10 PM yes the nx is more tail happy, the 200sx understeers bad from the toe in on the beam. I just picked up my new front end to replace the one that got ripped off in a sideways accident on thursday.
SERprise In WV 03-09-2003, 08:32 PM You mean like this?
http://www.turbochargedse-r.com/twistedbig.jpg
:D
That was with ProKits. I do not miss them.
My Dad's ZX3 on OE Flintstone Firehawks was easy to throttle-lift rotate when I autocrossed it. Fun, but hard to be quick - an open diff, a heavy flywheel (bump that CAFE rating), and no lateral grip.
Ham-fist a stock Classic enough, and it will come around. Abrupt weight transfers on soft springs unsettles things pretty well. I've done that one enough braking too late for an autocross gate while turning in. (The result looks a lot like Greg's pic. ;))
Andy92RubyClassic 03-09-2003, 10:01 PM last sunday Meclassic and i ice raced my car on a frozen lake in NH with Boston chapter BMWCCA.. well i'd say we were just as tail happy as the rwd BMW's..
stock suspension, ST bar in front and progress bar in rear set on middle.. lower front tires to 23psi and watch out..
best thing about an oversteering fwd car is that you are obligated to bury the gas while the rwd guys have to back off..
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