I know this is probably going to get locked but I wanted to throw my .02c in..

As for the quality of the build this is what I have to say.

I know Travis and I know he does good work. As for the car in question I saw it as it arrived. I never saw it complete more than any of yall (picts on forum). As for the billing issues and time issues I have no idea.

Now.. As for the motor blowing up... Here is what I have to say...

If the motor was smoking bad, dropped a valve, spun a bearing, had piston slap, leaked oil, or had bad compression I would say it would be Travis's fault. That is all stuff that happens from poor assy of a motor...

Now when you put a hole in your piston it is from one of the following....

Bad fuel pump
Bad fuel filter
Bad injectors
too small of injectors
Poor tuning
Too much timing
Too much boost
Not Enough Fuel Pressure

Well we know/dont know the following

We know the plugs were fine across the board.. That pretty much shows the pump, and filter were fine. It shows that the Rest of the injectors were the right size.

We (the board) dont know what the timing was, the boost was, or if the #3 injector was bad.
We all assume the Tuning was fine because it was a JWT computer.

Too much timing, boost, or not enough fuel can lean detonate just one cylinder.. If the airflow through the manifold is just a little more to that one, or if the injector at that one is just a little less than the other 3 than you can loose one cylinder without having definate signs in the others of a lean/too much timing/too much boost situation.

Travis is the only one who knows how the motor was built
Jason and his friends are the only ones who know how much boost was being run.

I dont think it is Travis's Fault on the motor blowing up. . Bad assy does not make a piston get a hole in it like that.. Plain and simple.

On the other hand I dont think that Jason is 100% to blame on the motor blowing up either. I dont know how much boost was actually being run. I wasnt there and cant say one way or another. It could of been a bad part, could of been too much boost, could of been bad gas.. It could of been anything. Shit happens when you modify a car. Plain and simple.. When you try to 2x, 3x or more the power of a car shit is going to break. Look at your Trans Jason.. When Making that kind of power if one thing is not 100% you can loose a motor.

Once again this is just my .02.

Danny

This can get very tricky. Each side blames the other person. My opinion on this, if the motor was built properly, and tuned properly, it should have been able to handle the 14psi. However, if it was at a higher boost, or additional "tuning" was made to the motor after it was out of Travis' hands, he cant be held completly responsible for what happened.

Besides having the right parts on the car for the JWT ecu, what can be tuned besides Fuel Pressure and Timing.. It is not like a standalone where someone can screw up in a bunch of ways...

Danny

Killa, if you had pm'd and discussed all your problems with Travis before taking this to the forum, then I apologize. If you didn't...

This has happened before... someone not satisfied with another members works and then flaming that person in public. Not cool and very immature... I would have thought that people understood that. Take care of business privately, then, if you get no satisfaction, bring it to the board for discussion and opinions.

I don't know either one of the people involved. I know nothing about Killa, I have noticed that Travis has got a good rep. Who's right? Who's wrong? That's not my point.

Killa, you slammed and flamed another member publicly. Now, there will be some people who will believe you or him, more. Doesn't matter. Without handling this privately, you've undoubtly cost him some business... not cool, especially if it was unjustified. It's called slander and is a punishable by law offense. Unless you can prove(and I do mean prove in a court of law) that his work was shoddy, he can sue your ass for slander and lost business. You've probably cost him business... that means food on the table for his family, a roof over their heads, etc...

Killa, I understand that you were and are frustrated about what happened with your car. But, because of the way you handled this in public, it makes me think about the "Subaru" thread where the kid tried to get the dealership to warranty his mistake.

Right or wrong, this was handled very poorly.

Later,
Mark(who's late for work, working to put food on the table)

well see i didnt lash out at travis at all i drove it at 14psi and people told travis otherwise which is why travis came out with the things that he said i wasnt blaming travis for anything all i was trying to do was figure out y my car blew up at 14psi i do not know if the is a hole in the piston or not i have not even pulled the head yet to find out exactly what happened im am not sure what caused the problem me and travis spoke about it off of the forum and either of us can figure out what the preoblem was it could have been a number of things me and travis just went about it in the wrong way.

Jason

This is what I gather from the threads I have read about this subject. Jason bought an engine from Travis. He says it blew up in less then 2 weeks. During that time he killed a 12sec car on the highway. Then the engine losses all compression in #3. Two thoughts. If the engine were poorly built it would not have killed that LS1. Detonation is what kills 99.5 % of engines like you describe. The video of you killing the LS1 kind of shows that the engine that he built was healthy. Lots of things can go wrong that are beyond the engine builders and the drivers control. That is just what can happen when you own a High HP car. When something does go bad it is normally VERY bad. The fact that it only occurred in one piston is an indication that it was detonation. Before you drop another engine in that car you need to find out what caused the problem. It wasn't the engine builder it is timing or fuel related.

I am also just a little curious what kind of break in this engine recieved. Didn't seem to live very long before getting some pretty hard usage.

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
This is what I gather from the threads I have read about this subject. Jason bought an engine from Travis. He says it blew up in less then 2 weeks. During that time he killed a 12sec car on the highway. Then the engine losses all compression in #3. Two thoughts. If the engine were poorly built it would not have killed that LS1. Detonation is what kills 99.5 % of engines like you describe. The video of you killing the LS1 kind of shows that the engine that he built was healthy. Lots of things can go wrong that are beyond the engine builders and the drivers control. That is just what can happen when you own a High HP car. When something does go bad it is normally VERY bad. The fact that it only occurred in one piston is an indication that it was detonation. Before you drop another engine in that car you need to find out what caused the problem. It wasn't the engine builder it is timing or fuel related.

I am also just a little curious what kind of break in this engine recieved. Didn't seem to live very long before getting some pretty hard usage.

This is tru me and travis have spoken and decided we were both wrong and are patching up our differences but now all i have to do is figure out what went wrong and also the car had 1000 miles break in before it was bewat on hard.

Jason

Anyone still have the link of him killing the LS1?? I'll go search now, but post it if you do please, I didnt get to see this one.

Originally posted by killase-r
This is tru me and travis have spoken and decided we were both wrong and are patching up our differences but now all i have to do is figure out what went wrong and also the car had 1000 miles break in before it was bewat on hard.

Jason

Good to hear.