I'm building my nitrous system and was wondering if any of you have any experience with the NOS Nitrous Mastermind, the Jacobs unit or the NX controller. They all seem relatively the same with features, yet differ widely in price. Thoughts? Recommendations? Also, do I need an aftermarket igntion to use most of the features such as the revlimiter and timing retard?

My car is a B-14 with a NOS wet direct port race system. I want to start at a 50 shot and end up with about a 150 (lots o fuel and little timing :eek: )

Thanks!

yes, you will need aftermarket ignition to do those, NX controllers seem the best to me, but pricey, next inline that i will look at is the jacobs unit. pretty much look at what you want, some are time based, throttle based, etc

Progressive Nitrous controllers are expensive regardless of which one you want. What kinda of work have you done to the motor to be giving it a 150 shot?

I've heard great things about the NX maximizer, apparently it'll do pretty much anything you could need a progressive controller to do.

I don't think you'll have any problem with a (progressive) 100 shot. Its the instant impact of nitrous (torque) that damages engines. Turbo people are making the same power as us (lets say) but putting a lot less stress on the rotating assembly.

Yeah so I've been thinking about a DET swap ... don't worry though, I'm never giving up the bottle :D

Aaro, my engine is just bolt on's and is internally stock. I know 150hp (possibly even a 175hp) shot is greater than what the concensus says is "ok". It's gonna be a one time thing as I have a bet to settle with a friend in a 5.0 stang and I'm gonna need the biggest shot I can go with...even if it is just once. I've got an extra engine anyway! I'm inquiring about controllers because obviously I will need all the help I can get in putting the juice power to the ground as a 150 shot in 1st or 2nd gear won't do me a bit of good. Thanks for the responses, it appears people have good things to say about he NX Maximizer. Here's another question, does anybody know at what point timing retard, will cancel out any nitrous gains? Thanks again...

Damn what has been done to the 5.0. I can eat those up at the track all day long!

My friend's 5.0 is a healthy 347ci with full Holley Systemax and all the goodies short of boost and juice. It's only been down the 1320 once and wasn't tuned real well and ran a high 13, but it will be tuned when we settle our friendly bet so I'm expecting I'll have to compete with a low 13. I think traction and a good launch will be key for both of us neither off us have much drag racing experience.

"does anybody know at what point timing retard, will cancel out any nitrous gains?"

Originally posted by Jester
"does anybody know at what point timing retard, will cancel out any nitrous gains?"

The general rule of thumb is to retard your ignition timing one degree for each 50hp of nitrous injected. For example, when spraying a 150 shot you should retard the timing 3 degrees.

Like a wiseman once said...."You know the rods shit themselves at 160 shot". A controller I would assume would help that. If he's only running high 13's...jeez just have full bolts on like you said and a 100 shot. That should take care of him EASILY!!!

I'm telling you guys ... progressive 150 shot is a WORLD away from a standard arm/microswitch setup. The impact on the roads isn't even in the same ball park when using a progressive controller. I'd be willing to say you wouldn't have any problem with a progressive 175 shot on a sr20.

My mustang friends (all N20 people) have said that they would never buy a jacobs controller after their experience with them. Both the NOS and NX are good I've heard with the Nx a little better than the NOS.

jon3k, I agree that it would "probably" take a larger shot that way since it is alot smoother transition, I am just saying that I don't think a 150 shot would be necessary to take a 5.0.

Originally posted by AaroNX
jon3k, I agree that it would "probably" take a larger shot that way since it is alot smoother transition, I am just saying that I don't think a 150 shot would be necessary to take a 5.0.

I didn't mean to imply you would, sorry for the confusion. But I guess it all depends on the 5.0. Mustangs are funny like that, you can't tell if its a limping 16 second stang, or a loping blown and juiced 383 :eek: :eek:

My simple rule for stangs is this.....If they show up with slicks look out. If its on street tires, it shouldn't be a problem.

Of course it may be different at other tracks.

Thanks again for all the feedback. My friend will be running a borrowed set of BFG Drag Radials on his stang when we run them this spring (he was on his street tires when he did the high 13). He tells me others with similar set up stangs are in the mid 12's, but again niether of us have much drag experience, that's why I'm expecting 13's. I guess I'll be the group guinnea pig with a progressive 175 shot. Our little race is probably going to happen in May or June and I'll share the results. I'll have a lot of time to practice my launches between now and then...but so will he. If the SR20 lives after that I'll have to get plates that say 3/4 JUICE or something. It's going to be a fun time no matter what the outcome.

You should tape the race and post it on the forum!!!

Good luck to ya man.

I suggest the NX/Highpower Controller.

Most featues, best on the market, period.

You can have progressively timed 1 or 2 stages

There's also a feature that increases injection after every shift if needed.

It's just plain sick...

A friend of mine has about 160-165hp in his 2.4L DOHC Neon, run 20x8x14 slicks, 100hp NX single nozzle kit and NX Maximizer

12.4@106....

http://www.noswizard.com/progressive.php

http://www.noswizard.com/graphics/MaxiX3.jpg

This is the newest version of the HighPower Controller also marketed and sold as NX's Maximzer. This version however won't be sold in the US by NX, as they are developing a new PC based system simular to the programable modes found in the Venom VCN-2000 kit and can be programed from a PDA.

I would get the HighPower unit cause it's more compact than the last unit and like I said, it does so much more than any other controller on the market.

I dunno what your other mods are, but slicks, a good clutch and between 100-125hp shot of nitrous with a controller should do the trick.

I really like that thing!!!

*wipes away tear*

That thing is fucking beautiful :eek:
Where can I get more information on it? Specs, prices, etc?

Wow, price is like $300 (GBP) which comes to about $630!!! :eek: :confused: :eek: :confused: