<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eric96ser:
I have one, let me see if I can post it tonight.</font>Thanks, Eric. I did a search and come up with your site but your site is down.

I changed ISPs, so that's why its down. I've been busy with my company's site, so I haven't had the chance to redo my own.

I think Ben (forum Super Admin) has one too. I remember seeing it somewhere on thers

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96 w/ HS CAI, timing @ 17, 92 I/E cams, Naxos muffler, Eibach Sportlines, Front struts: Motivational, Rear shocks: KYB AGX's, S/T sway bars, ES lower control arm bushings and motor mounts, Courtesy F/R STB, APC Clear corners, Stillen grille, and Focus short throw.

Who has a dyno chart showing the gains from the install of the 91 intake cam vs stock B14 cams? I know I've seen one before.

I have one, let me see if I can post it tonight.

hey i just installed a BB intake cam on my 96 and I wonder what kind of gains I actually recieved..anyone got that dyno chart?

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Irwin 96 200sx SE-R (w/ a lil sumptin sumptin) photo viewable thanks to Chrissy!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1451974&a=13559048&p=52493441

http://laf.cioe.com/~benbobbo/turbo/dynocharts/'91%20cam.jpg


*EDIT.. Sorry, it doesnt have the comparison, blame it on Ben. I stole it from him.

[This message has been edited by WhiteSER (edited 08-11-2001).]

Sorry for the delay, here's the chart:
http://members.home.net/sr20pwr/camcompare.jpg

That last dyno is very optimistic

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Naji Dahi, aka Red Mist
Fast 1998 SE-R Last of the SE-Rs (http://www.geocities.com/n_dahi)
Slow 1996 G20 (AGXs/G20t springs, K&N drop in filter)

WTF do you mean optimistic? How's that?

No it ain't. Check out SCCs cam shootout from last year. The 91 intake cam is worth about 9hp and 6 ft-lbs. That dyno chart is right on.

here is another car with a '91 cam. the first runs are wavy because the timing was way off. This is with stock exhaust and JWT POP, and timing @17. No other mods.
http://members.home.net/sr20pwr/stefcam.jpg

Do you think he read the article? Oh yeah that's right, he embarrassed the SE-R community by writing a long winded letter to SCC. Even they made fun of it by noting that they had to edit it for length. People still talk about that one.

Well he might have embarrassed some people, but not me, cause he's actually correct in his argument...but anyways...

Thanks Eric. I can't wait for the cam to arive.

Sean

I think naji is a very smart and open minded individual and a lot of people criticize him for it..

my $.02



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Aztec Red 1993 NX2000

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by silversx:
I think naji is a very smart and open minded individual and a lot of people criticize him for it..

my $.02
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By that statement, I see you don't really know him at all. http://laf.cioe.com/~benbobbo/NonCGI/biggrin.gif

The 9hp increase seems to be very optimistic.
I have a graph showing a 91 SER with S3 cams with only a 9hp gain. If both of those graphs are correct, I will see a 18hp increase with my S3 cams on my 97 200sx.

JWT claims I will only see a 10-15hp increase with S3 cams.

Mike

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mdpay:
The 9hp increase seems to be very optimistic.
I have a graph showing a 91 SER with S3 cams with only a 9hp gain. If both of those graphs are correct, I will see a 18hp increase with my S3 cams on my 97 200sx.

JWT claims I will only see a 10-15hp increase with S3 cams.

Mike</font>

You have to remember... That 9hp gain is only representative of ONE particular car that dyno'd with the comparison between the low-port intake cam and the high-port intake cam. Not every car will see the same results. Too many variables to consider.

You can't assume that if a high-port SR20 gained 9hp with the JWT cams, and a low-port SR20 gained 9hp with the high-port intake cam, then the low-port SR20 will gain 18hp with the JWT cams. You can't add horsepower that way. If that were the case, the SR20 would make well over 200hp with just bolt-on's and no internal engine work.

However, it has been shown that a low-port SR20 will show more gains with the JWT cams than a high-port SR20 would.

Regarding the SCC Project Sentra SE-R cam shootout, if anyone has actually read the article, you'll see that Dave Coleman stated something to the effect of, "Since we are using a '98 intake cam in a '91 cylinder head, the gains may not represent the actual gains on a '94+ cylinder head; it's an approximation, but it's the best we could do." Unfortunately, SCC does not have another low-port SR20 in which to do the same tests (Mike Kojima's car wouldn't be representative as he has a fully built SR20.)

FYI, the '98 intake cam is the same as all the low-port cams post-'94 and pre-roller rocker SR20's.

--Andrew Phan
1993 NX2000 (stock cams, and staying that way)
1998 200SX SE-R (JWT S3 cams, but soon to be stock again)

I have a '99 FSM, and the '99 intake cam is alittle smaller. The '98 maybe the same, but the '99 is not.