idono.. just wondering if anyone knows.

yes :rolleyes:

no :rolleyes:

damn.. than im just gonnna go straight and get the sr20ve overr the det.. *** imagine turboing that shit.. ahh.. man! better in the long run too. is the availability high for sr20ve engines? or are they scarce.

really. theres a whole forum dedicated to this engine. go over there, read the faq, search some more and it will answer all your problems. and you cant just turbo the sr20ve. go to the forum and read.

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So.... what would you have to do to turbo the ve?

Originally posted by NiSsFLiPp
Re: is the sr20ve the answer to the honda's gsr (b18) engine??

No it is comparable the the B18C5. I put out the same whp with fewer mods on the same dyno.

It's not just the Answer Or solution this motor and from what ive Seen is the Shit for us all motor freaks (WOOOHOOO!!!)

I say no, if it was the answer solution it would be more known and more widely used. The aftermarket would be much larger than like one company that makes headers for it...

as for the more HP with fewer mods, some of it is accounted to the larger engine size. just my opinion

This is such a silly conversation. Mugen and Spoon make "answers" to the B18C5. Impul and Autotechnic make "answers" to the SR20VE. Hondas are Hondas and Nissans are Nissans, unless they're supertuned, in which case they're still Hondas or Nissans with new stickers.

Yeah, an SR20VE makes more HP than a B18C5, but you have to remember that HP is a function of torque, and with the B18's stratospheric redline, it could easily catch up. But it didn't. Now ask Steve about the H22 that barely made as much horsepower, and it had more mods. Now how many Honda production cams in Honda machined heads on Honda cast blocks make 99.7HP/L at the wheels? Shaggy's g/f's car does -- 199.2 WHP, from 1998cc, on pump gas, with no compressors and no laughing gas.

There; the SR20VE rocks, and Hondas can be neat, too. Let's move on, lest we look like those flaming ricer retards on ClubSi.com that piss and moan about domestic V8s that pick up more horsepower than their Civics make when the redneck thug installs a cat-back exhaust and MAF sensor upgrade. Doesn't mean they're fast; they just make lots of power.

I've seen built B20's locally in a full interior Civic DX coupe run a 12.88 all motor with drag radials he did have forged pistons rods head work and type R cams ....he had a dyno in his car 208 WHP I forget the torque

You broke the rule; it had headwork. I said "Honda-machined," as in fresh-from-Honda. Shag's g/f's car has no such massaging. The fact that it's in a DX Coupe is why it runs 12.88s. Move along, people...nothing to see here...

Drag radials....and a civic coupe not a hatchback thats pretty impressive I'm sure with the same mods bigtom or ambers car will hand it to them

Originally posted by CowboyDren
You broke the rule; it had headwork. I said "Honda-machined," as in fresh-from-Honda. Shag's g/f's car has no such massaging. The fact that it's in a DX Coupe is why it runs 12.88s. Move along, people...nothing to see here...

yah ur right...amber's car is stock...with just the n1 cams and its 199 FWHP....

But not headwork. Amber's HP numbers can be duplicated without pulling the head off of the block, and only require basic hand tools. That was the point I was trying to make. No decking, no porting, no extrude honing...it just works.

PS - Adjustable fuel pressure regulators and a JWT computer are considered bolt-ons in every sense of the word. What else does Amber's car have that we can't just get out of a Nissan parts bin and use as-is?

People on this forum compare apples and oranges all day long. Peak numbers, 1/4 mile times are the measure of a cars worth to these morons. Flat torque curve, linear power, why would I want that? Honda's variable valve system is bullshit. BMW's VANOS is more advanced than I-VTECH or VVL, but who care's. Let's talk about timeslips and bodykits.

Originally posted by scmser
People on this forum compare apples and oranges all day long. Peak numbers, 1/4 mile times are the measure of a cars worth to these morons. Flat torque curve, linear power, why would I want that? Honda's variable valve system is bullshit. BMW's VANOS is more advanced than I-VTECH or VVL, but who care's. Let's talk about timeslips and bodykits.

i have vanos:D

Originally posted by CowboyDren
This is such a silly conversation


Agreed.

Originally posted by CowboyDren

Now how many Honda production cams in Honda machined heads on Honda cast blocks make 99.7HP/L at the wheels? Shaggy's g/f's car does -- 199.2 WHP, from 1998cc, on pump gas, with no compressors and no laughing gas.


At least 2 that I can think of. Almost any Integra Type R will put down 100whp/l with bolt-ons and tuning without ever opening up the motor. 180whp from the 1.8l B18C5 is do-able nowadays. I know of at least one TypeR putting down in excess of 200whp with stock cams. ...And then you have the the Honda S2000 putting down 100whp/l right off the showroom floor.

But then, what does that prove?... ;)

Andrew