Web site updates are coming soon, we're trying to make a template to achieve a consistent look across region pages. Region Execs now have access to upload content but they're awaiting the template.

It's old news that B15 SE-Rs are indeed "allowed". With the upcoming Altima SE-R, they're coming in, too. It's now a blanket SR20/SE-R club. Should have seen the gorgeous bronze 510 with the SR20 transplant at this year's Convention...the one that won Best of Show.

Larry MacLeod has dropped off the face of the Earth, so someone in the Great Lakes Region needs to step up and take the reins as region exec. This would get information moving again in your area.

I can't believe I've just read all this bickering in this thread.

Some of you guys are ridiculous.

I have a few points to make, so here I go:

First of all, we are NOT going to get a big track like Lime Rock, Road Atlanta, Road America, etc. They cost way too much. Why do you think when the SE region held the convention last year, we chose Birmingham? It sure isn't that there are a lot of us that live there. Heck, I don't think there is one SERCA member who lives in Birmingham. We chose Birmingham because it was the closest major city to the track (Talladega Grand Prix). Why did we choose that track? It was about 1/10th the cost of Road Atlanta, literally. When I called about Road Atlanta to set up the 03 convention, they quoted me something like $20+k a day, and had a 3 year waiting list. AMS and Roebling Road were also too expensive (Roebling was a possible stretch, but they were booked).

Second of all, FL in general, has an attitude problem. I have first hand experience, as I used to live there. Me and Chef were the only 2 people in Orlando who had any SERCA enthusiasm whatsoever. I agree FL has lots of loyal Nissan enthusiasts, but if they don't support SERCA, they will have a hard time convincing SERCA to let them host a convention. Also, FL people whine about having to "drive too far" to get to other conventions. Well, who in the hell wants to drive to southern FL? Hell, I'm in a bordering state and Miami is STILL a 12 or 13 hour drive. Distance, IMO, is no excuse, for ANYONE, regardless of location.

Finally, for my vote...I vote to have it wherever it ends up. I don't really care. If I had to choose a preference, it would be somewhere it hasn't been already.

Also, to those who had mentioned Mexico. And Geo, you mentioned Canada (either in this thread, or somewhere else). I know you meant it as a joke, but I'd like to see that some day. I think it would be fun to have a convention in another country, yet still be within driving distance. But again, in order to do that, we need to have a strong commitment from Mexico and Canada SERCA members.

Geez, Torry, you complain about the "bickering" and then bicker at Florida? Now, that's ridiculous.

Now that few of us "Florida Bickerers" have attended conventions, we have a better idea and feel for SERCA. Bringing up the past, the whining and the attitude... this is just going to alienate potential members.

You used to live here, you don't anymore... let it drop, already. It's not like you're covering any new territory... thanks for the "positive" feedback, Thumper.

There are a couple of threads going on right now, especially involving potential Florida membership. People keep bringing up the past, the attitude, and the lack of support issues... and we'll be right back at square one. Most of us who have been to a SERCA convention know full well that '05 is completely out of the question, and most likely '06.

If you feel the need to peck at something, go hunt down the rest of the SE-R owners who aren't members of SERCA.

Brought to you by W.H.A.A. ... Warning Hazardous Attitude Ahead

Peace,
Mark

I think a Ray quote sums it up best:

"Wah wah F***ing wah".

Another summary: A SERCA Convention is hosted by a SERCA Region. If you aren't a SERCA member, expressing your desire won't have much sway. Join up and get active if you want a Convention in your state.

Web site updates are coming soon, we're trying to make a template to achieve a consistent look across region pages. Region Execs now have access to upload content but they're awaiting the template.

It's old news that B15 SE-Rs are indeed "allowed". With the upcoming Altima SE-R, they're coming in, too. It's now a blanket SR20/SE-R club. Should have seen the gorgeous bronze 510 with the SR20 transplant at this year's Convention...the one that won Best of Show.

Larry MacLeod has dropped off the face of the Earth, so someone in the Great Lakes Region needs to step up and take the reins as region exec. This would get information moving again in your area.


I would love to help out and get involved, if it would help there to be more events and such. I don't think I can go from non-member to Region Exec all in one fail swoop however. I don't even know who all in this region are members. Within 2-3 years I plan on opening up a small shop in Indy dedicated to Nissans as well. I'm beginning to implement my plan on that at the end of this summer. I would probably be offering many specials to SERCA and forum members, as well as hosting mini-meets often (depends on the size of my lot honestly). I also plan to get a Dyno, and will probably have dyno days once a month or so.

And Geo, you mentioned Canada (either in this thread, or somewhere else). I know you meant it as a joke, but I'd like to see that some day.

Actually, Poland, coordinated by Mike Jez was a joke. I don't think Montreal would happen, but I could see it sometime. SERCA was set up to include all of North America and at one time there was a Canadian region. There are folks in New England that would like to host a convention and I could see them getting together with our brothers from Canada and doing one in Canada. Hell, if nothing else, the track would almost certainly be cheaper.

I love going to Canada and miss living close to it as I did in Rochester. I went to racing school in Canada and raced karts there. Shoot, at one time I knew all the words to the first verse of O' Canada!

Geo, I knew Poland was a joke, but I figured Canada was too, especially when you said Mt. Tremblont (sp?), since that is a pretty big internationally recognized track. However, if some SERCA members could pull it off, it would be sweeeeeeeeeet.

Mexico would be just as cool. But I was checking into it last night, and Mexico is not near as safe to drive through. Seems you have to get Mexican insurance and stuff if you go into Mexico any farther than 20 or 30 kilometers. But it would still be cool.

And to vladha, I'm not trying to feed fuel to the fire. I'm simply saying that it will be a long time before FL is recognized as a strong SERCA contributor since it was going the wrong direction for so long. I'm glad to see that there are now more SERCA supporters in FL. Seems that you agree, since you recognzie FL will most likely not hold a convention in the next year or two.

Don't get me wrong, if they can pull it off, I'll be glad to go.

I think a Ray quote sums it up best:

"Wah wah F***ing wah".

Another summary: A SERCA Convention is hosted by a SERCA Region. If you aren't a SERCA member, expressing your desire won't have much sway. Join up and get active if you want a Convention in your state.


Bruce, who the heck is Ray and why is he crying?

Let's leave the past in the past and consider what Florida has or has not done a dead issue. I'm impressed with how much response the Florida people have given and the interest they show.

The hard part will be to keep that interest alive and running... it would make future development easier.

So, attend a convention... ok, got it.
Become a SERCA member... ok, got it... duh.
Gain experience with local events, then try for the biggie(whenever)... ok, got it.

See, we all agree. We've got a strong contingent of owners down here, beautiful weather, nice tracks and a new attitude... we'll get there.

Peace,
Mark

P.S. Seriously, it's not necessary to keep hitting us with the "stick of past sins", m'kay?

SERCA as an organization is struggling, and membership NATIONWIDE is an issue and not just in any single region. Unfortunately, it's a catch-22 since everyone's reaction when the issue is raised is, "What's in it for me?". Right now, sadly, there isn't a lot.

Second of all, FL in general, has an attitude problem. I have first hand experience, as I used to live there. Me and Chef were the only 2 people in Orlando who had any SERCA enthusiasm whatsoever. I agree FL has lots of loyal Nissan enthusiasts, but if they don't support SERCA, they will have a hard time convincing SERCA to let them host a convention. Also, FL people whine about having to "drive too far" to get to other conventions. Well, who in the hell wants to drive to southern FL? Hell, I'm in a bordering state and Miami is STILL a 12 or 13 hour drive. Distance, IMO, is no excuse, for ANYONE, regardless of location.




I agree with you there. Last year and this year, every FL guy that I tried to get to go was complaining that its too far to drive, and that I'm crazy. The only person who didnt this year, was Will, and he came with me.

I agree with you there. Last year and this year, every FL guy that I tried to get to go was complaining that its too far to drive, and that I'm crazy. The only person who didnt this year, was Will, and he came with me.

Too far, too long... whatever. I went to the '03 Convention because it was just a day's drive away... should have brought the family. We had already made plans to drive out to California, even scheduled 2 weeks off so we could take our time with the kids. Even had a very respected and likeable member offer to sell his SUV to us at under Bluebook so that I'd have a tow vehicle and could track my car at Willow Springs.

But, you know something, life happens. One surgery that could not be rescheduled w/o undo consequences, and 2 surgeries not scheduled for the twins. Try and guess where my priorities lie... hint, look at my sig.

So far, the attitude is "SERCA Convention or Bust". Well, guess again. If you're only getting into SERCA just for the convention, you're selling the organization short. SERCA people make the convention happen... the convention is not SERCA. It was great to meet people, exchange stories, and drink and eat with a lot of fellow members. But, you can go to the convention w/o being a member. Which came first... the convention or the organization?

We will do our utmost to make next years convention... planning, time off, money and sight seeing all rolled into a family road trip. But, you know, if it can't happen, I sure as hell don't want to hear the same old refrain "Florida members don't want to , blah blah blah". I'd get over it, you should also.

Florida won't be ready for a convention for at least a couple of years... we need the time to practice, get organized, and more practice. Lots of enthusiasm right now, gotta work to keep it going.

Peace,
Mark

How About Aguascalientes, Mexico?? :D :D :D Home of the largest car factory in Mexico... (Nissan of course!!)

Yeah, yeah, Aguascalientes will be great

I am with Florida!!!
My B13 will be fully built by then & I want to see some BIG A$$ Titties Not a mutha-freaking Texas size twister sending my SE-R to OZ!

Has the SERCA council ever considered asking Nissan of America to get involved?

Um....weren't they like involved this year? I mean, we did have our show/raffle at NNA headquarters!

its all about the E-Town Raceway Park. Because its close to me of course...bwahahahaha.

wow, you know, i just dont understand why everyone gets so angry with one another.

i have been to the national convention, and i have also been to the annual florida nissan meets, and i must say that the florida nissan meets dwarf a convention, in attendance that is, but it is a one-day thing, and obviously does not take the same kind of planning. I do know that Rob and Mario are very capable of planning a SERCA convention, and we do have the key elements. If those of us that actually care get our acts together, i have no doubt we can bring the convention here in 06'. there is no reason for everyone to be at one anothers throats over this. I can almost gaugantee the sr20 community is bigger in south florida than anywhere else in the country. Bringing the convention here would probably be one of the best things SERCA could do for itslef. Like Matt said, SERCA is lacking in membership, i think a florida meet could boost membership in an astounding way.

now WHO FROM FLORIDA IS AN OFFICIAL SERCA MEMBER? Rob, Mario, Justin lets make this happen, we need to show SERCA that we do have the motivation and skills to host the convention in 06'.

-Will

if not the notheast this year then def. next year.

if not the notheast this year then def. next year.

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