explain emanage to me! [Archive] - SR20 Forum

: explain emanage to me!


nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 03:56 PM
what all do i need to buy to use it? do i piggy back it on my de ecu or my u13 ecu? can i use a 300zxtt maf? how big of side feed injectors can i use? i use the u.s. o2?, i am quite lost, this thing requiresa laptop? right now i have a b13 with a big turbo and 370@3bar w/ stock u13 maf and u13 ecu, how much for the setup i would need, hard to install? work good, user friendly?

Yellow4g63
08-15-2004, 04:23 PM
what all do i need to buy to use it? do i piggy back it on my de ecu or my u13 ecu? can i use a 300zxtt maf? how big of side feed injectors can i use? i use the u.s. o2?, i am quite lost, this thing requiresa laptop? right now i have a b13 with a big turbo and 370@3bar w/ stock u13 maf and u13 ecu, how much for the setup i would need, hard to install? work good, user friendly?


You need to search a lil harder. Your questions tell me that your not ready for something like that and JWT ecu is for you. It's a piggy back computer. You can run (biggest I have heard was 720cc on a SR) bigger injectors, Yes u can use the 300zx or Q43 MAF or RB25/20 maf or just use the stock maf and use th map sensor to tune when you over run your maf. You need a laptop to tune it yes. Big trubo? what that mean? T28? T3/T4E? 60-1? those injectors are too small for a big turbo. Have you ever used a SAFC before? Know what one is? ever installed one before?

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 04:38 PM
i can install and do just about anything (did my whole swap myself/ no help), i just need to have the literature in front of me, i have a t3/t04e 82 a/r stage 3 60 trim, my problem is that i have a 8.5.1. motor so thus i cannot use the usdm de ecu and i have the bb ecu, maf, o2 installed right now but, the maf just took a shit on me, and i want to upgrade to a 300zxtt maf and bigger injectors i.e. 550cc, i think an safc would be easier (for me, *** it's supposedly simper) i'd like some feed back on that, is it just as simple as having the codes to switch injector sizes and mafs? would it be basically be plug and play if i installed a safc and reset it for bigger injectors and maf, and i have heard contradictions on the use of a safc and u13 ecu, (***, supposedly, the safc cant read a u13 maf) more input please. is this a diy project?

coach
08-15-2004, 04:40 PM
if you want literature then search, cause I know personally that about everything you need has been covered here on the forums before. Many have used emanage and I recommend using it on a U13 ECU.

Brent

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 04:41 PM
correction, not read a u13 o2.]...i want to do 550 cc injectors, safc, 300zxtt maf, u13 ecu.

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 04:43 PM
i just kinda wanted to hear specifically from someone that has done it, the way i'm talking about and their input, i'd also be intrested to hear what people have to say about the safc setup i mentioned.

coach
08-15-2004, 04:43 PM
you will find in your research that the emanage is the safc and a whole lot more. I recommend the emanage.

Brent

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 04:46 PM
what do u use coach? u have a similar turbo setup to me i think.

Yellow4g63
08-15-2004, 05:26 PM
correction, not read a u13 o2.]...i want to do 550 cc injectors, safc, 300zxtt maf, u13 ecu.

the AFC won't idle too good with the 550cc injectos. even with the 300zx A/F. you could prob turn the fuel psi down and it might help. Emange 550cc,300zx maf and U13 ecu has been done. Worked pretty damn good, but you can just run your stock SR ecu and run the 550c and not worry about finding the right 02 sensor.

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 05:46 PM
so, what if i was going to do the safc now, with 550cc, and 300zx maf and u13 ecu, what o2 *** i use, the skinny one right (i'm avoiding buying a laptop right now, i also have a regulator, so i could turn down the pressure like u were saying

Yellow4g63
08-15-2004, 05:53 PM
so, what if i was going to do the safc now, with 550cc, and 300zx maf and u13 ecu, what o2 *** i use, the skinny one right (i'm avoiding buying a laptop right now, i also have a regulator, so i could turn down the pressure like u were saying

It will run rich. If you have a wideband and EGT to keep track of things it might work out for you. The problem we had was that it ran so ruch on the 9.5 motor that we had to lean it out to heat up the EGT's. Then we couldn't go to far because the timming on the U13ecu seemed alot more agreasive that the USDM ecu. It would start to ping if we went too low on the afc. And with race gas we couldn't really lean it out much more either. It sucked, If I were you I would just save for a laptop. A P3 500mhz will do the job, dosen't have to be a P4 3 gig. You will make more Hp with the Emange than you will with the SAFC.

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 06:08 PM
a lap top like u explained (how much do those go for used) and what other emanage stuff just the main unit, software, ignition/ injector harness right? btw, there are some guys down here that will run and tune a eugo wideband for 20 bucks an hour, the welded an extra bung in my dp for it, thas why i kinda wanted to do the cheap safc,

also, is my turbo too big for the u13 ecu, o2, maf? cud that be why my maf crapped on me, i was fiddling with the wastegate and i hit 10 psi, next thing i know my maf was dead.

Yellow4g63
08-15-2004, 11:13 PM
a lap top like u explained (how much do those go for used) and what other emanage stuff just the main unit, software, ignition/ injector harness right? btw, there are some guys down here that will run and tune a eugo wideband for 20 bucks an hour, the welded an extra bung in my dp for it, thas why i kinda wanted to do the cheap safc,

also, is my turbo too big for the u13 ecu, o2, maf? cud that be why my maf crapped on me, i was fiddling with the wastegate and i hit 10 psi, next thing i know my maf was dead.

Your stock maf will prob max out at 250hp, I forget how safe the 370's are. If I rem on my friends car it was 9psi or 10psi and they were maxed out. Check Ebay or Search google for a used lap top. Might find a good one for maybe 500 or a lil lower.

nissanoholic
08-15-2004, 11:16 PM
i wouldnt think that 7 psi on my turbo would really max anything out, but i do think i'll be pushing the envelope

Yellow4g63
08-15-2004, 11:19 PM
i wouldnt think that 7 psi on my turbo would really max anything out, but i do think i'll be pushing the envelope

Check the Voltage of the MAF at WOT in 3rd gear or 4th gear if really want to know. It's not a stock T25 turbo ur pushing or a T28. The 60trim is alot bigger.

coach
08-16-2004, 08:45 AM
With the U13 ECU you can use the stock O2 sensor in the B13's. I am doing that on my friend John's NX right now. U13 ECU with an emanage running MSD 72lb injectors and a 300z maf. Also have an aeromotive FPR and a walbro 255 fp. I think that setup is one of the best ways to go about boosting a B13.

Brent

nissanoholic
08-17-2004, 01:54 PM
i dont think u can use the stock usdm b13 o2 with a u13 ecu, u might have a u12 ecu in which u could use the fat o2 and a stock maf. because when i bought my ecu, maf, o2 combo from andreas miko, it came with a 54c maf, u13 ecu, and skinny o2.

coach
08-17-2004, 01:57 PM
U12 ECU uses the skinny O2 sensor man. THough I could be on crack and don't know it.

Brent

civicdragon
08-17-2004, 02:16 PM
I tihnk you should just get the jwt ecu and call it a day, you can get one for pretty cheap now adays... whats good about that is you can later get emange or an safc and piggyback it to the jwt for even finer tuning....

I have a jwt and if i decide to get a larger turbo and want to extract more power out of it i might pick up an safc to add on.