: QR25DE tubular manifold/GT30R :)
unlucky 10-11-2004, 05:16 AM I've been playing with a TIG welder for a few months now.. I'm starting to get the hang of it. This was my first attempt to build a tubular manifold. I used Schedule 40 316L Stainless to build it. Couldn't get a stainless QR head flange.. so I had to go mild steel on it. I need more practice before I can make a 4-1 collector. This was a 4-2-1 setup.. with runners 1 and 2 tied together.. and then 3 and 4. Better than a log.. but not as good as a true equal length.
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Norlandt29.jpg
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http://www.fi-r.com/images/Norlandt31.jpg
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Hopefully, with a little more practice.. and the addition of a new machine at the shop.. I'll get a lot better. :)
Travis
Majestical69 10-11-2004, 10:57 AM That looks sweet! Did you do any research on air flow or things to that nature? Either way, awesome job man!!
-Mike
myprojectB13 10-11-2004, 12:17 PM Is the firing order of the motor 1,3,2,4?
Zexel 10-11-2004, 04:46 PM Looks sweet! I want to start learning how to weld, just as a hobby type thing.
Corey
blairellis 10-11-2004, 05:53 PM Is the firing order of the motor 1,3,2,4?
i would guess it probably is, is the design of the manifold wrong for that kind of firing order? would 1 and 3 need to be tied together and 2 and 4? or is it chill the way it is. no offense to unlucky, im just curious why he asked that question.
myprojectB13 10-11-2004, 05:56 PM Thats exactly why I was asking what the firing order was. If it is 1,3,2,4 then that design is correct. You want to pair the cylinders that fire 180* apart.
blairellis 10-11-2004, 05:59 PM Thats exactly why I was asking what the firing order was. If it is 1,3,2,4 then that design is correct. You want to pair the cylinders that fire 180* apart.
good to know. i am taking a tig welding class at school and who knows, there may be a ka24de manifold i may have to fab up at some point :D
travis what kind of filler rod did you use to join the stainless and mild steel? i know your going to suck up properties from both metals into the weld but im sure you dont really care. im just curious what you used. my reference chart is out in the car.
i also see an aftermarket trigger on the crank pully. what are you doing to this poor car? LOL
unlucky 10-12-2004, 01:55 AM Yeah.. the firing order is 1,3,2,4. :) This should work out pretty well.. I used 309 filler rod to join the mild steel and stainless. The car has the following mods..
AEBS sleeved block
Cryotreated factory crank
Arias 8.5:1 C/R high silicon content pistons 4mm higher wrist pin
Crower rods 4mm longer
AEBS head studs
JWT cams and springs
Blueprinted and assembled in-house
Stainless 4-2-1 manifold
Garrett GT30R turbo
3" downpipe
3" exhaust
4" inlet pipe
2.5" intercooler piping (powdercoated)
880cc injectors
Spearco bar and plate cooler
Greddy Type R bov
Electromotive TEC II standalone
Bosch FPR
Walbro 255lph pump
Urethane motor mount inserts
JWT clutch and flywheel
Tial 38mm wastegate
Greddy Profec B
Autometer EGT, boost and oil pressure guages with custom pillar pod
Apexi turbo timer
Racing Hart C2's (18")
Custom fuel rail
Shooting for 500whp on C16. :)
Travis
Zexel 10-13-2004, 12:21 AM Damn, that's a sick setup! Hope you do well!
Corey
javierb14 10-13-2004, 03:58 AM hey travis, did you ever get my email? your pm box is full.
unlucky 10-13-2004, 06:28 AM Yeah... I just read it last night.. I'll shoot you one back in the next few days. :)
Travis
v8killer2001 10-13-2004, 06:29 PM Is the firing order of the motor 1,3,2,4?
Just to clarify, the firing order is 1-3-4-2, not 1-3-2-4. I am not sure how much of a difference this makes, as the manifold is already fabbed up. By the way, nice job Travis! Keep up the good work man.
Peace,
OneSlow1.6 10-13-2004, 11:51 PM damn man....very impressed
unlucky 10-14-2004, 08:03 PM Just to clarify, the firing order is 1-3-4-2, not 1-3-2-4. I am not sure how much of a difference this makes, as the manifold is already fabbed up. By the way, nice job Travis! Keep up the good work man.
Peace,
Yeah... you're right, it's 1,3,4,2. It's not going to hurt anything realy.. I got the car done today.. We're going dyno this weekend in Tampa. I built a base-map for the car and went drive it around. I observed 2-3psi of boost by 2800rpm! :) This thing is going to rock..
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Norlandt38.jpg
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http://www.fi-r.com/images/Norlandt40.jpg
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Norlandt41.jpg
More pics and video to come during the weekend.
Travis
El Gabito 10-14-2004, 08:49 PM Yeah... you're right, it's 1,3,4,2. It's not going to hurt anything realy.. I got the car done today.. We're going dyno this weekend in Tampa. I built a base-map for the car and went drive it around. I observed 2-3psi of boost by 2800rpm! :) This thing is going to rock..
More pics and video to come during the weekend.
Travis
NICE! Good job travis!
SERprise In WV 10-14-2004, 08:55 PM Good stuff, Travis. :)
neonphire8604 10-14-2004, 10:12 PM aww, you even have the AC :cool: cool ride man :biggthump
unlucky 11-25-2004, 10:39 AM Car made 401whp/352ft lbs at 18psi on 93 octane. Thanks to Scott Avoy in Tampa for helping with the tuning.. :)
Travis
GINGA 11-25-2004, 01:19 PM Nice numbers :biggthump got anymore pic of the car itself?
Cjburn 11-25-2004, 08:55 PM If everything stays efficient you're on pace for 548 at 30 psi, if you decide you want that much boost!
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