The official wide tire (205+) thread

[mpg9999]

I know some people have run as much as 225's. Lets get a listing of what exactly people have done to run wider tires. I'm more interested in 215 and 225's, but I'll start share my 205 experience anyways. Try to keep it in this format if at all possible. Hopefully this will make it easy to get some really wide tires without guessing whether or not it will fit.

Chasis: B13
Wheel: Kosie K1 15x7
Offset: 38mm
Tire: Falken Azenis 205-50-15
Suspension: Hyperco gen2's and agx's
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Rubs: Sitting still everything clears, but the tires are extremely close to the rear strut. Under hard cornering during autocrosses, it will rub slightly, but its nothing to worry about.

[ChrisNX2000]

i'll keep an eye on this thread. i'm very interested.

[andris]

We have fit as large as a 235-40-17 RA1 and a 245-40-17 Hoosier on a B13 with very low offset wheels (20 or so, you could probably do 25 ?). Front and rear fenders were rolled and slightly flared by hand with a big ass hammer. It is actually slightly easier to fit wider tires with larger diameter wheels because of the way the strut body is leaning. There is rubbing of course in tight low speed turns (parking lot speed) but that is not surprising. I think there was also some rubbing in the wheel apron/pinch weld area in the front. That got folded over. You can't lower the car a whole lot with tires this big; the body just can't hold them without tubbing the wheelwells.

andris

[Driven97]

B14
stock wheel
Kumho Victoracer 225/50/15
GC/AGX
no spacers
front rubs only upon full steering deflection
rear does not rub

[mpg9999]

Originally Posted by Driven97

B14
stock wheel
Kumho Victoracer 225/50/15
GC/AGX
no spacers
front rubs only upon full steering deflection
rear does not rub

Hmm, thats interesting. Does the b14 have more room in the rear? I'd like to run some 225 victoracers on some 15x8 kosie k1's.

[FlodaSE-R]

Chassis: B13
Wheel: Panasport 14x7
Offset: 38mm
Tire: Kumho V700 225/50/14 -or- 205/55/14 Hoosier R3S03.
Suspension: Koni/Truchoice coilover, shortened. 450f/400r.
Fenders rolled: Yes. Rears were recently "massaged" via BFH for clearance.
Spacers installed (if so what size?): Yes, 1/4" If not it will contact rear spring perch.
Rubs: Rears will rub outer fender under heavy compression and the inside tire wall will rub the spring perch w/o the spacer.

[TOOQIKK]

Chasis: B13
Wheel: 13"x?"
Offset: ?
Tire:Sumitomo 215-50-13
Fenders rolled: yeap use a baseball bat works great literally just roll it
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Suspension:stock struts w/ 2" drop intrax springs and the bump stops cut
Rubs: ...only the exhuast car sits really low

[RollcageSR20]

Chassis: B13 SE-R
Wheel: Kosei K1-R 15x7
Offset: 38mm
Tire: Kumho Victoracer V700 205/50R-15
Suspension: Ground Control/KYB AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): 3mm for the rear
Rubs: Rubbed against the rear strut, and now clears just fine with the 3mm spacer.

[JimR]

I'll play captain obvious.

Chassis: B13 SE-R
Wheel: ATS Comp Lite 15x7"
Offset: +35mm
Tire: Falken Azenis RT-215 in 205/50R-15 (wider than your average 205)
Suspension: Hyperco Gen2/KYB AGX
Fenders rolled: rear fender lip tucked in to keep from rubbing the outer tread block.
Spacers installed: no
Rubs: fronts rubbed holes in the inner splash guards from autocross use, rears just scuff the rear strut bodies in hard cornering

[Driven97]

Originally Posted by mpg9999

Hmm, thats interesting. Does the b14 have more room in the rear? I'd like to run some 225 victoracers on some 15x8 kosie k1's.

That beam has to be good for something, right? Yes, lots of room in the rear. I didn't measure or check it though, just bolted 'em on and drove.

[nasa ser]

great topic, i have been asking this off and on for a couple of months....i finally just gave up and ordered two 225/14s toyos for the front of my car, i am trying to get them on 14 X 6

oh yea

B-13

GC/agx
no spacers (i hope)

borbet 14X6 38 offset of nx2000 40 offset

rub/rolling not sure till i try i this weekend

[BigB]

B13
HypercoGIIs/AGX
no spacer
ATS CompLites 15x7
+35 ot
Falken Azenis RT615 205/50/15

minor fender liner rub on front at full lock. rear: bent the outer lip with hammer flat.. would cut the tire otherwise...

[racersd2]

Chassis: B13 SE-R
Wheel: Konig Next 17x7
Offset: +35mm
Tire: Kumho 205-45-17 (street)
Suspension: GC/KYB AGX
Fenders rolled: yes
Spacers installed: no (not yet)
Rubs: None
We are going to try the falken RT-615 215-40-17 later this month (race)

[BigB]

scott.. you coming to the SE Divisional here?

[slowSER]

Originally Posted by mpg9999

Hmm, thats interesting. Does the b14 have more room in the rear?

Because the B14's don't have MacStruts in back, they have a little more room for tire clearance. On my old old B13 SE-R (Calum's car not Kevin's car ), I ran 225 Hoosiers in front and barely, barely fit 205 Hoosiers in the rear on 14X7 wheels. Used a 5mm spacer and, um, modified the Shocktek shocks.

Pat

[McCoy]

Originally Posted by slowSER

Used a 5mm spacer and, um, modified the Shocktek shocks.

I wasn't sure why you modified those until I ran the 205/50/15 victoraciers with the shockteks

[Scarpa]

Chasis: B13
Wheel: Rota Slipstream 15x6.5
Offset: 40mm? not sure...
Tire: Falken Azenis 205-50-15 (RT-215)
Suspension: GC/AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Rubs: About 1/8" or less clearance between rear tire and strut body. No problems in front. No significant rubbing.

I'm going to be switching to Progress coilovers and Toyo RA-1s in the fall, so I'll bump this thread at that point with my findings.

[Slartibartfast]

Chassis: B13
Wheel: TSW Blade 16x7.5
Offset: 35mm
Tire: Yokohama AVS Intermediate 205/45-16
Suspension: stock struts and springs
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Rubs: Only against rear fender liner with people in back seat

Chassis: B13
Wheel: TSW Blade 16x7.5
Offset: 35mm
Tire: Yokohama AVS Intermediate 205/45-16
Suspension: Valley Spring equivalent to Hypercoil and AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Rubs: Only against rear fender liner with people in back seat

Chassis: B13
Wheel: TSW Blade 16x7.5
Offset: 35mm
Tire: BFG Euro T/A 215/40-16
Suspension: Valley Spring equivalent to Hypercoil and AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): no
Rubs: Only against rear fender liner with people in back seat

Chassis: B13
Wheel: SSR Competition 15x7
Offset: 42mm
Tire: Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position 205/50-15
Suspension: Valley Spring equivalent to Hypercoil and AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): yes (1/4" (5mm) rear only)
Rubs: Only against rear fender liner with people in back seat

Chassis: B13
Wheel: DTM something-or-other 15x7
Offset: unknown
Tire: Yokohama A-032 DOT race tire 205/50-15
Suspension: Valley Spring equivalent to Hypercoil and AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): yes (1/4" (5mm) rear only)
Rubs: Only against rear fender liner with people in back seat

Chassis: B13
Wheel: SSR Competition 15x7
Offset: 42mm
Tire: Kumho V700 Victoracer DOT race tire 205/50-15
Suspension: Valley Spring equivalent to Hypercoil and AGX
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed (if so what size?): yes (1/4" (5mm) rear only)
Rubs: inner front fender liner at steering stop. Don't know if there's any rubbing in rear since car is gutted.

[McCoy]

Chasis: B13
Wheel: ATS comp lites 15 X 7
Offset: 35mm
Tire: Hoosier RS303 GAC 205/50/15
Suspension: GC (350F/245R) and agx's
Fenders rolled: no
Spacers installed: 5mm (rear only but not needed)
Rubs: Not yet, but car is only lowered about 1 inch.

[BRE92SER]

Chassis: B13
Wheel: Motegi Trak Lite 15x7
Offset: 35mm
Tire: Toyo T1-S 205/50
Suspension: GR-2/GC
Fenders Rolled: No
Spacers: None
Rubs: None

Chassis: B13
Wheel: (cant remember brand/style) 16x7
Offset: 35mm
Tire: Toyo Proxxes 4 215/45
Fenders Rolled: Yes
Spacers: No
Rubs: 225's rubbed spring cups, rolled/trimmed fenders just for saftey