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Old 05-29-2006, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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suspension ? for the race/ daily drivers

i am going to purchase a setup for my b13 that is a auto X/ daily, and i have been reading the forum and it seem like the progressive setup has a problem rubbing and hurting the coilovers and the teins lower the car to much and are to stiff, and modifying the shock body to fit the koni 8611 is a option.

so what i am asking for is the good, bad, and the ugly, of all 3 of my optinons

please help i dont want to buy a setup and be unhappy
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You may want to try the K-Sport option as well. So far I like them, and I took them on a 200 mile trip this weekend.
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Old 05-29-2006, 03:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Teins are adjustable, they may be a shortened body design but you can raise them to almost stock height is desired. Also the SS's are adustable so being too stiff is a null point. Just set to desired level.
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Old 05-29-2006, 06:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have shortened Konis (regular B13 insersts) with Tokiko springs. Very nice for daily driving, not harsh at all (compared to the racecar which has Ground Controls)
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i am going to purchase a setup for my b13 that is a auto X/ daily, and i have been reading the forum and it seem like the progressive setup has a problem rubbing and hurting the coilovers and the teins lower the car to much and are to stiff, and modifying the shock body to fit the koni 8611 is a option.

so what i am asking for is the good, bad, and the ugly, of all 3 of my optinons

please help i dont want to buy a setup and be unhappy
Progressive setup? What the heck is that? Do you mean Progress setup? If so, I still don't know what you're referring to. I've had my for over a year with no issues. Are you referring to Dan's camber plate issue? I beleive that had to do with improper installation.

Oh ya, the Progress CO are a bit harsh for daily. Just my opinion. My other car has Ground control with Koni reds and it rides much nicer. I track that car on occasion, and it's still carves a pretty mean corner to boot.
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i am talking about the rubbing issue and i didnt know that he installed them incorrectly, i also like the idea of the adjustability with the teins, but i did not consider the k sport, have you run an autox with them is so how did they fair
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes, good for street daily driving and money. Don't forget the Koni bumpstops as well.
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i have been very happy with my Hotbits coils for DD and auto cross so far.
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Buy my Motivational Engineering coilovers

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Yes, good for street daily driving and money. Don't forget the Koni bumpstops as well.
I've finally installed my Hyperco/AGX/Koni Bumpstops on my daily driver.
Down time on my SE-R project, so I thought that I'll use it on the GA16 daily driver.
And I tried the daily driver at the Autocross with dead 170,000 miles stock suspension.
I did pretty good for a body rolling stock GA16 Sentra.
Now I'm going to compare the Hyperco/AGX next race day.
And for street, it's good, no complaints from me.
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I had Hypercos on AGX's with Koni Bumpstops for 2 years. It was very good for daily driving and handled great for 2 autocrosses and 5 track days. I just now (2 months ago) moved up to GC coilovers (300/279 F/R spring rates). This set up is ok for daily driving, but I haven't been to a track day or autocross to have a chance to dial it in. One advantage to going with coilovers is that you can use camber/caster plates to align the car properly. With the hyperco/agx set up, I ate through tires because I had an alignment problem that couldn't be fixed. There may be a solution to this now, other than using undersized bolts, camber bolts or slotting the strut ear. Also, no matter what set-up you use, get a progress rear sway bar. This is the piece that completes any suspension set up and really gets the car to handle exceptionally well.

Edit: If I had it to do over again, I would go with shortened Konis in a coilover set up.
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You had at least two folks on this post who REALLY know - MaddMatt and BigB. If you don't know, Matt works for Carbotech. You'll see plenty here about how good their pads are; Matt races B13. BigB is a serious and seriously good ax'er. The issues with the Hyperco/AGX approach on adjustability are the same as for stock - you get to adjust toe only unless you do camber bolts which the ax'ers all say won't stay put. I use them with my AGX/Hypercos, but will be happy to find another solution. You will get a BIT more negative camber with the Hypercos as you'll lower about an inch. Caster can be helped with Octotat's lca caster bushings. Don't know if there's a camber plate that will fit stock towers as opposed to coilovers.
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Don't know if there's a camber plate that will fit stock towers as opposed to coilovers.
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