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Old 03-19-2007, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After the Carbotech deal, I was wondering what other options we have for these pads? The car is autocrossed almost weekly, with a few HPDE2 summit and vir weekends every couple of months through the summer. I am currently on xp8's and ultimates rear. I emailed Cobalt (so far the best option) and they will have a pad, but need a 3 week min, lead time. Ive heard that a hawk pad? (a mitsu turbo??) will work, but dont know which one. I will have to do something soon though.

I love my pads, but am loyal to Matt. I will not support a company that dicked a friend like that.




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Old 03-19-2007, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think Porterfield makes them in their R4 compound. At least I used *something* when I had AD22VF brakes on my old '93. I don't think I've used anything other than Porterfield and that other brand (that I will never buy again) in 7-8 years of track events.

Well other than Raybestos "Brute Stop" pads on my Firebird when I needed something in a pinch.

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Old 03-19-2007, 03:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not 100% sure R4s are around anymore....
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Old 03-19-2007, 03:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The '95 Eagle talon or Mitsu Eclipe Hawk pads fit fine, I'll look up the order # for you.
Ok I believe it is the HB-213 for the non-turbo Talon.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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where is the cheapest place for us to get hawks, i am in the same boat as solosol
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Look for 1990-1992 Eclipse/turbo/AWD front pads. The FMSI number is D484. Hawks part number is indeed HB213. I believe they have HP+ and Blue availible. Try calling Essex Part Services (www.essexparts.com), they are a huge seller of Hawk. Ask for Amber. Tell her I sent you.

I am not 100% sure, but I think my departure has been very positive for business at Cobalt...
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I called Carbotech to get my last set of pads because I was in a crunch. The guy on the other end of the phone had no clue who I was, had none of my information, and was lost when I said I had NX brakes on a SE-R. Those bastards.

Next pads will be something different so I'll keep watching this thread to see if someone finds a decent source.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I run the Hawk Blue, HB213. I get them from Raceshopper.com for about $100 per set.

As Matt can attest to, I could not keep the Carbotech pads under my car; the backing plates were bending and the pad material cracking. I liked their bite, but at 20% more than Hawks I could not justify them over the Hawk Blues. - GA
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I called Carbotech to get my last set of pads because I was in a crunch. The guy on the other end of the phone had no clue who I was, had none of my information, and was lost when I said I had NX brakes on a SE-R. Those bastards.
$10 says you get SE-R pads.

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As Matt can attest to, I could not keep the Carbotech pads under my car; the backing plates were bending and the pad material cracking. I liked their bite, but at 20% more than Hawks I could not justify them over the Hawk Blues. - GA
My experiment to try to solve that was shot down. By the new management.

I'm the one with the f#king Engineering Degree too.....
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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As Matt can attest to, I could not keep the Carbotech pads under my car; the backing plates were bending and the pad material cracking.

You know if you didn't go so damn fast, you wouldn't have these problems..
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I am not 100% sure, but I think my departure has been very positive for business at Cobalt...


After dealing with Andy for the '03 Convention, I'm not sure if I could do business with him.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That's why I'm sending as much business as I can to Essex. Those guys know brakes, have a decent product line, and won't f#k you over. The Mitsu pad will work for the NX caliper guys. The AD18 guys are just out of luck. It's Porterfield or Carbotech for them....
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Been there done that twice in my life, Matt, didn't like it either time; second was just a few years ago - scary being on the street at 60. Hope life gets better for ya soon. Sounds like these guys are after track pads - what from Essex should I use for street/autox? Like most of us, ain't never gonna touch your former bunch ever again.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:18 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Jerry, I use Axxis Ultimates for the street/autox, and they work great. They do dust, but I've never felt like I needed more pad. That is until I put my Panther + pads in.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Find some Ultimates for street/autox. They are dusty and seem to wear out a little quickly, but they are reasonably priced.

Essex carries Hawk and Ferodo. Ferodo has nothing for the AD18 or AD22 calipers unfortunately.
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Essex carries Hawk and Ferodo. Ferodo has nothing for the AD18 or AD22 calipers unfortunately.
That sucks.
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Thanx guys - Must admit I liked not having to clean wheels every ten miles (okay, maybe more - -), but Ultimates it be.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I use them, so they can't be that bad.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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