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all gone - no more orders please
this thread will be closed 4/1/06
after a long and arduous ordeal, i am able to offer the whiteline 4pt control arm braces as factory seconds at a reduced price.
when i originally ordered these i had a sample sent to me and discovered some defects. these defects are mostly cosmetic and should not affect fit or function.
as you can see there are issues with weld quality (burn through, uniformity, etc), tooling marks, and discolored anodizing.
i didn't feel comfortable selling these at $185 because i know i would have been disapointed with them - and if it ain't good enough for me, it ain't good enough for you. after some negotiation with whiteline i got a credit and i'm passing it on to you. whiteline still hasn't offered an explanation for thier quality control, which leaves me wondering if these problems are considered normal.
keep in mind these pics are from a sample and the rest of them may be in perfect shape (or not). i will not be checking each one for imperfections!!!
these are sold as is - no refunds/returns
i have 25 of these available - first come first served
after 2/18/06 i will be shopping out any that are left to dealers and tuner shops
like they wont dent up being under your car? who cares? you wont see them anyway
Well, I agree that it would be inexcusable to sell them as brand new retail priced items. Whiteline should certainly have better QC.
On the other hand, I would trust Octotat's judgement 100% on whether something is just cosmetics or a structural defect. If it is just cosmetic? Then I agree with sinistersntra91. Chuck is offering the forum a fantastic deal on a brace that goes under the car where it will get beat to sh*t anyways.
2 cents, and a bump for a good seller.
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I am interested in purchasing one of these braces but I got a quick question.
Would your supplier give each one like a quick little check before you ship them out just to make sure they don't have any massive structural defects?
Even if they don't, I think I will take my chances for that price.
Thanks
Rob
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Last edited by robchaos19 : 02-04-2006 at 08:35 AM.
I am interested in purchasing one of these braces but I got a quick question.
Would your supplier give each one like a quick little check before you ship them out just to make sure they don't have any massive structural defects?
Even if they don't, I think I will take my chances for that price.
Thanks
Rob
they won't be opened or checked prior to shipment
if i was able to have them do that, i'd have them pull all the acceptable ones and sell at retail -10% (the original $185). i'm not sure they would be able to assess structural defects (or defects of any type) anyway.
i can't imagine the defects go beyond those outlined. if so, that would add another level of disapointment to a sad situation.
I'll do one... if you aren't going to open them though, how do you know you won't ship one with a dented tube which would obviously kill structural stability and fitment?
I can deal with it looking crappy, but if it won't fit or won't function then it's no good.
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................. a dented tube which would obviously kill structural stability and fitment?
that's a pretty broad and overreaching statement. if you are worried about "structural stability", you would want this bar manufactured out of steel. the bends in this piece would affect it more than a dent in the tubing.
rob_ , you may want to pass on these. i have done my best to outline the problems as seen in my sample. i cannot guarantee you will receive one that is up to your standards.
I'll do one... if you aren't going to open them though, how do you know you won't ship one with a dented tube which would obviously kill structural stability and fitment?
I can deal with it looking crappy, but if it won't fit or won't function then it's no good.
It appears that this is the gamble we're taking by getting these control arm braces for $135 instead of $185.
He said that the sample he got was a bit messy looking but structurally sound and he has no idea what the other ones look like. For all we know we could be recieving perfectly fine and good looking braces for $50 off retail.
edit: Paypal sent.
Thank you
Last edited by robchaos19 : 02-05-2006 at 12:27 AM.
I don't mean dent like you show in the pic, that is not a big deal. A major crease in the metal will render the bar useless, and quite possibly bend one of the "legs" off-center so it would not even bolt up.
I'm talking about a BIG issue, not the little ones in the sample pics. A scratch here, a globby weld, that type thing is not an issue. Just looking to make sure they didn't drop the pallet from 20' in the warehouse and bend the crap out of them or anything.
Yeah I wish I could have that security too, but as he said, if he could have them pull them out of the box and check each one individually, he would be selling the good ones at retail price not 50 dollars off.
I don't mean dent like you show in the pic, that is not a big deal. A major crease in the metal will render the bar useless, and quite possibly bend one of the "legs" off-center so it would not even bolt up.
I'm talking about a BIG issue, not the little ones in the sample pics. A scratch here, a globby weld, that type thing is not an issue. Just looking to make sure they didn't drop the pallet from 20' in the warehouse and bend the crap out of them or anything.
lol
ok i get ya
if an obvious major problem like that is discovered we can work something out
I don't mean dent like you show in the pic, that is not a big deal. A major crease in the metal will render the bar useless, and quite possibly bend one of the "legs" off-center so it would not even bolt up.
I'm talking about a BIG issue, not the little ones in the sample pics. A scratch here, a globby weld, that type thing is not an issue. Just looking to make sure they didn't drop the pallet from 20' in the warehouse and bend the crap out of them or anything.
I agree with this statement. AS long as they work fine without any problems, small scratch here and there, globby welds (which I assume will hold) etc, then I am down with one.
